Its def a possibility but idk if it would get voted in, people that aren’t in the furlough zone would have to vote yes...and a lot of them. Most of don’t work at guarantee, so it wouldn’t bother me much if there is stuff to pick up from others etc

Except when there are furloughs, no picking up OT.

That’s a really big factor in my thinking. 55tfp of 88 is a good deal, but if guarantee drops to 75, then I’d be foolish to not take ExTO. Sure hope I’m making the right call.

I’ll bet the majority of ExTO takers are 2-6 yr FO’s, and junior commuting captains.

can still pick up from fellow crew members I believe. That’s what I do exclusively because of kids needs

Kernel’s got his head in the sand!

I guarantee that they’ll be asking for a lot less than a min of 75 TFP. More like 60-70.

Again, if I was close to retirement age or even 55, I’d strongly consider it. Can you imagine having to actually work for 70 TFP instead of sitting at home for 67? Put a bullet in me for crying out loud!

I’m thinking it might be a good mix all over the list. I know of at least 9 FO’s taking ExTO and we all have been here at least 12 years.

I know of 5 guys that have been here less than a year that are taking the ExTO, and thats only out of the 22 in my class I know. So thats a good sign.

Damn. Do you think folks would vote for that low of min guarantee if it came with furlough protection? I sure don’t. The folks out on ExTO might because it wouldn’t effect them, but I doubt anyone left flying would, even possible furloughees.

Guys who take VSP won’t have a vote in the future. I have no idea how many people are going to tale VSP.

However, in general, the senior guys who don’t take VSP and stick around are more likely going to be of the more “happy he here”/“I’d do this job for free” variety than the guys who would prefer to do something else. Those guys, in my experience, tend to be more the true believer/koolie type.

That is going to change the voting dynamics. Imo, it makes it more likely than ever that this group will vote in concessions.

Plus, if you stick around, the likelihood that you’re going to have to fly with a true believer/koolie type is higher than it was before because many of the people who aren’t overly attached to this job are going to take VSP or ExTO.