Extended Tine Off/Early Retirement Ofer
#241
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
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So am I reading the latest email from the company correctly, if you wait until the 15th to put in for the VSP you will get to see a pre award on the 21st and see how many people above or below you took the VSP as well and then you can decide to opt out by the 22nd! That kinda hoses everyone who put in early and now don’t have a chance to see how it will effect their seniority.
i think you might be misinterpreting the email. The way I read it it’s just like monthly bidding. Award out on the 21st then a 24 protest period (like the email said in case of any clerical errors) and then the final award on the 23rd.
Not sure why seniority would matter. If you take VSP who cares how many people above or below you took it. And the seven day withdraw period only applied to VSP.
#242
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 99
i think you might be misinterpreting the email. The way I read it it’s just like monthly bidding. Award out on the 21st then a 24 protest period (like the email said in case of any clerical errors) and then the final award on the 23rd.
Not sure why seniority would matter. If you take VSP who cares how many people above or below you took it. And the seven day withdraw period only applied to VSP.
Not sure why seniority would matter. If you take VSP who cares how many people above or below you took it. And the seven day withdraw period only applied to VSP.
#243
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,120
Seniority post-VSP could be a factor, but we're talking about the top of the FO list who aren't really VSP candidates. Still...
An older FO who can't upgrade now (or who may never upgrade) but who might be able to upgrade if VSP and EXTO results in a huge CA/FO imbalance, might choose to stick around, upgrade, and spend a few years on the CA scale before retirement. If that same older FO isn't going to get close to the upgrade cut after VSP though, he/she might decide to take VSP, go home and get another job.
It's just one more what-if or course, and it probably applies to... maybe...? a dozen FOs who are both senior AND old enough that they weren't counting on spending much (or any) time in the left seat anyhow?
An older FO who can't upgrade now (or who may never upgrade) but who might be able to upgrade if VSP and EXTO results in a huge CA/FO imbalance, might choose to stick around, upgrade, and spend a few years on the CA scale before retirement. If that same older FO isn't going to get close to the upgrade cut after VSP though, he/she might decide to take VSP, go home and get another job.
It's just one more what-if or course, and it probably applies to... maybe...? a dozen FOs who are both senior AND old enough that they weren't counting on spending much (or any) time in the left seat anyhow?
#244
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,120
Not entirely true. A hypothetical 60 yr old FO who's been here only 5-6 years *might* see it as a decision point. Take VSP and get another job, or stick around (maybe even take EXTO) and possibly get a couple years in the left seat if enough CAs leave?
#247
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: 121
Posts: 161
Extended Tine Off/Early Retirement Ofer
#248
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 353
If that person is 60 it's 105k a year for next 5 years, free. That's not a stupid move in my opinion. One has to work really hard to make that kind of money. Plus, if things go south, you make youself safe from a furlough. Good for him/her!
#250
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 840
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