NB Terminates NEA agreement with AA - Page 4 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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ftaba1 , 07-07-2023 09:34 AM

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Well, shoot! That sounds bad. Hoping the NK MEC brings some backbone with them, but honestly I'm not very optimistic based on our last contract.

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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins

Which brings up another point. We have a lot of gaps to fill in the JCBA. Do we honestly believe this toothless NC has it in them? We have some good committees and some good LEC reps, but for the most part our union is a joke. I hope Spirit at least brings some dogs ready to fight because this company is not going to just lay down and give in. And our union has zero fight in them…coupled with an apathetic pilot group. Wait till these Spirit guys have to deal with the micromanaging overlord CK. I’ve never heard one person in 5 years say anything good about this guy.

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Bluediver , 07-07-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins

Which brings up another point. Wait till these Spirit guys have to deal with the micromanaging overlord CK. I’ve never heard one person in 5 years say anything good about this guy.

It’s not automatic that he keeps his job. It will be extremely important to go to local meetings and possibly an MEC meeting when the time comes. Whether you like him or not. The joint member reps will be decided by you.

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DrSmacFum , 07-07-2023 11:05 AM

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"How unified is the Pilot Group"

I wish I could see the results to that question. Because we'll have to be pretty soon here.

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Excargodog , 07-07-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum

"How unified is the Pilot Group"

I wish I could see the results to that question. Because we'll have to be pretty soon here.

Naw, the real issue is how ready is the MEC and NC to put up the 50%+1 vote CBA that the management wants them to put up.

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PSU Flyer , 07-07-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Naw, the real issue is how ready is the MEC and NC to put up the 50%+1 vote CBA that the management wants them to put up.

This. I hate to say it, but we need to be protected from ourselves.

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Excargodog , 07-07-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PSU Flyer

This. I hate to say it, but we need to be protected from ourselves.

Maybe we need a ratification change. Require supermajorities. Sort of like amending the US constitution.

Require 75% approval of the group as a whole.

AND

75% approval of all commuters as a group

AND

75% approval of those living in base as a group

AND

75% approval of all FOs as a group

AND

75% approval of all CAs as a group

#37

TransWorld , 07-07-2023 12:58 PM

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And 75% of all pilots who’s user names begins with the letter “E”.

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Noisecanceller , 07-07-2023 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Why should commuters have any vote at all. They are like gingers, they have no soul.

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PSU Flyer , 07-08-2023 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Why should commuters have any vote at all. They are like gingers, they have no soul.

Wait, I thought gingers

#40

symbian simian , 07-08-2023 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Why should commuters have any vote at all. They are like gingers, they have no soul.

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