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Old 07-06-2023, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted View Post
Someone asked: “Will we be slowing pilot hiring? Thank you.“

The response: “Yes, we are drawing down some of our hiring targets through the end of 2023. They won't go to zero, but much lower than originally planned. Staffing levels at the bases are solid.”
Doesn't mean displacements for whose on property like the poster I quoted mentioned. I did see that comment though. I believe they did adjust the numbers significantly months ago due to delays of delivery, so not necessarily due to eliminating the NEA. I remembered it being mentioned in one of the pilot pocket session.
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Old 07-06-2023, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I was inverted View Post
Someone asked: “Will we be slowing pilot hiring? Thank you.“

The response: “Yes, we are drawing down some of our hiring targets through the end of 2023. They won't go to zero, but much lower than originally planned. Staffing levels at the bases are solid.”
FWIW, Back in Feb, the VP of flight ops said they expected hiring to slow and possibly even stop over the summer.
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Old 07-06-2023, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PSU Flyer View Post
FWIW, Back in Feb, the VP of flight ops said they expected hiring to slow and possibly even stop over the summer.
They do that every summer. This latest one says a drawdown of hiring thru the end of the year, not just thru the summer. They’ve hired about 330 this year which has outpaced attrition by about 100ish. They started off saying 1,000+ this year. Then 700. Now “much lower than originally planned.” It’s not just a summer slowdown. This is a “let’s hope our list is the same size in January as it is today.” My guess is we end up hiring about 400-500 this year total and losing about 369 for the year.
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Old 07-06-2023, 08:08 PM
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Wait, What? Jetblue drastically revised their hiring numbers downward from numbers that everyone knew were unrealistic. Crazy. Hope this doesn't become a trend every year.
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Old 07-07-2023, 03:34 AM
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Wait, What? Jetblue drastically revised their hiring numbers downward from numbers that everyone knew were unrealistic. Crazy. Hope this doesn't become a trend every year.
Exactly.

we haven’t hit our projected hiring numbers a single year I’ve been here.
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Old 07-07-2023, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
Exactly.

we haven’t hit our projected hiring numbers a single year I’ve been here.
That's a Bingo. Would imagine aircraft delivery delays has more impact than the NEA on this one.
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Old 07-07-2023, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
Exactly.

we haven’t hit our projected hiring numbers a single year I’ve been here.
I doesn’t help that we are basically the interview for the legacies….the legacies are literally hiring guys that show them their wet Airbus type ratings we give them. They prove they can pass a training program with us then get hired.

This place is a revolving door unless you desire BOS, live in FLL, or want to waste your entire career as an FO in MCO since you’ll never upgrade. Other than that and you are going to commute, it’s pointless to be here.
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Old 07-07-2023, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
I doesn’t help that we are basically the interview for the legacies….the legacies are literally hiring guys that show them their wet Airbus type ratings we give them. They prove they can pass a training program with us then get hired.

This place is a revolving door unless you desire BOS, live in FLL, or want to waste your entire career as an FO in MCO since you’ll never upgrade. Other than that and you are going to commute, it’s pointless to be here.
JB has all their eggs in the Airbus basket and are paying for it. To slow down or even stop hiring in this environment is crazy.
Not a good feeling. And let’s be honest, there is no plan B if this acquisition gets shot down. All I can say is JB better have negotiated some rock bottom discount for future Airbus WB’s to make up for this debacle.
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Old 07-07-2023, 07:02 AM
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Of course, we ARE preparing to negotiate another contract… bad news is in the company’s best interest. Playing it up would make perfect sense. If it’s not an investor call, it’s propaganda.
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Old 07-07-2023, 07:38 AM
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Of course, we ARE preparing to negotiate another contract… bad news is in the company’s best interest. Playing it up would make perfect sense. If it’s not an investor call, it’s propaganda.
Which brings up another point. We have a lot of gaps to fill in the JCBA. Do we honestly believe this toothless NC has it in them? We have some good committees and some good LEC reps, but for the most part our union is a joke. I hope Spirit at least brings some dogs ready to fight because this company is not going to just lay down and give in. And our union has zero fight in them…coupled with an apathetic pilot group. Wait till these Spirit guys have to deal with the micromanaging overlord CK. I’ve never heard one person in 5 years say anything good about this guy.
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