NB Terminates NEA agreement with AA
07-07-2023, 09:34 AM
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Well, shoot! That sounds bad. Hoping the NK MEC brings some backbone with them, but honestly I'm not very optimistic based on our last contract.
Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
Which brings up another point. We have a lot of gaps to fill in the JCBA. Do we honestly believe this toothless NC has it in them? We have some good committees and some good LEC reps, but for the most part our union is a joke. I hope Spirit at least brings some dogs ready to fight because this company is not going to just lay down and give in. And our union has zero fight in them…coupled with an apathetic pilot group. Wait till these Spirit guys have to deal with the micromanaging overlord CK. I’ve never heard one person in 5 years say anything good about this guy.
07-07-2023, 10:59 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
Which brings up another point. Wait till these Spirit guys have to deal with the micromanaging overlord CK. I’ve never heard one person in 5 years say anything good about this guy.
07-07-2023, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
"How unified is the Pilot Group"
I wish I could see the results to that question. Because we'll have to be pretty soon here.
I wish I could see the results to that question. Because we'll have to be pretty soon here.
07-07-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Naw, the real issue is how ready is the MEC and NC to put up the 50%+1 vote CBA that the management wants them to put up.
07-07-2023, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PSU Flyer
This. I hate to say it, but we need to be protected from ourselves.
Require 75% approval of the group as a whole.
AND
75% approval of all commuters as a group
AND
75% approval of those living in base as a group
AND
75% approval of all FOs as a group
AND
75% approval of all CAs as a group
07-07-2023, 07:30 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Maybe we need a ratification change. Require supermajorities. Sort of like amending the US constitution.
Require 75% approval of the group as a whole.
AND
75% approval of all commuters as a group
AND
75% approval of those living in base as a group
AND
75% approval of all FOs as a group
AND
75% approval of all CAs as a group
Require 75% approval of the group as a whole.
AND
75% approval of all commuters as a group
AND
75% approval of those living in base as a group
AND
75% approval of all FOs as a group
AND
75% approval of all CAs as a group
07-08-2023, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Why should commuters have any vote at all. They are like gingers, they have no soul.
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