Good job ALPA. Why not use IPA agreement as the bar.

In the Union defense, how are we supposed to get a better deal when guys rushing to pick up trip in OT all of which going through or laying over in China? The company could have offer half pay and guys would still take it. What a bunch of independent contractors.
Why would anyone pick up a trip that going through China in those time? I understand if you fly your schedule trip or got revised, but to grab it from OT is crazy.

My understanding is UPS pilots get nothing extra if the trip is on their line. Only volunteers get the bonus. I think ours everyone gets.

The letter says if we are quarantined somewhere our status is changed to NOQ. What does that mean for pay? Sounds like you are no longer on a trip correct? If I get quarantined in Singapore for 14 days I don’t get paid? We also lose CAAS NOQ if I remember right?

I think NOQ is Not Operationally Qualified with pay.
I think NQN is Not Operationally Qualified with No pay.

I could be wrong though. I couldn’t find that written.

Once NOQ, have to go thru Harvey Watt to get reinstated. Can’t bid. Enjoy custom line and A reserve when you are cleared.


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Where is that written?

Can’t you be NOQ for expiring on landings?

Getting this corona virus while at work should not cost a crewmember a dime of sick leave, dsa etc. Should be a workmans comp type status. Sorry but I think this deal sucks.

Another nugget:

If you are in the field and get revised to fly into China you have no recourse. Once you check in you are cannon fodder.

Ask the people currently in Asia how many trip revisions are going on. This is not the same as declining SUB.

So even if you bid around/opt out of China flying you will probably still wind up there, albeit with your extra 4.5 hours and a free thermometer.

Made many landings into Kai Tak and wasn't battling an outbreak. Prayers to you all doing those flights!