flyergurl

If you look at the actual text of the quarantine notice issued in Hong Kong, they have excluded those who are traveling between mainland China and Hong Kong for the purposes of ensuring cargo and freight is moved. So FedEx and UPS pilots could freely cross the border without quarantine, potentially, at this time.

Noworkallplay

I hear a lot of blaming ALPA for the lack of foresight from the company. Its unbelievable how benevolent our pilot group is to our lack of leadership in upper management.

Timeoff2fish

I was talking about the POTENTIAL mess that could happen if the outbreak gets worse and what could happen if various countries initiate a 14 day China transit look-back, even for air crews.

Adlerdriver

There’s theory.......see above.
And there’s reality. For that, talk with the crews who are now trying to convince the local version of Barney Fife they’re supposed to be exempt.

Merica

But the company read file had that bullet in bold font so the aircrew exemption would be noticed by all. So that with 3 masks daily and hand sanitizer makes everything A-OK.

Hey ALPA.... what's the deal!?!

Adlerdriver

ALPA is being blamed for lack of communication, not management’s failings. I’ll bet they could nudge management in the right direction with a threat to withhold services... a threat they (we) actually mean. We’ll see.
Regardless, we got this. You can go back to your reserve and standby periods at home.

Kipper

The latest I’ve seen from management says company policy is 2 masks per day! And these are single use masks.

There is so much happening to our crews all over Asia and none of it is good.

We file reports to the company and to the union regarding concern for our health and safety and as long as the freight keeps moving that’s all that seems to matter.

Please submit insite reports and PDRs so at least there is documentation.

StarClipper

Keep all this in mind during next contract negotiation.

Essential Pay/Compensation For Essential Employees.

Higher Pay Rates
Improved A Plan
Improve B Plan
Profit Sharing
Paying Less For Global Health Insurance
Easier Expense Report
Rolling 365 Days Deviation Bank With Realtime View
200% Pay During Operational Emergency
Night Pay
Hazardous Duty Pay


And the list goes on.

Noworkallplay

I actually agree with a lot of what you post in the past. 117 and this corona issue we differ. I am so feed up with our pilot group thinking ALPA runs the company and operation.

The union has put out comms daily and just tonight another email stating they are still in talks on what appears to be an agreement to resolve a lot of these issues. Remember they cant force the company to agree.

If your fatigued due to bad hotels and sleep then call out fatigued. If a flight is unsafe then man up and use your PIC authority to not operate due to safety concerns. If your sick then call out sick. A big portion of our pilot group does none of the above with the expectation that someone else should do it for them. We blame company issues on ALPA as if they run the operations.

Im not an ALPA cheerleader but I darn well realize that those guys/gals are line pilots just like us. What do you think this place would look like if we didn't have pilots representing pilots?

Lets grow up and start unifying and point the finger towards the proper perpetrators.

Noworkallplay

Excellent post and list! Our pilots are the front end employees that get the job done day/night all around the world 365 days a year. Time for management to pay us as such.