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Quote: Just a bit of research can clear up all your misconceptions about the B737 Max. The "rube-Goldberg" that you describe is nothing of the sort. It is a well-proven design that has been used for many years called trail-link gear. Also, the FBW spoilers reduce weight, maintenance and improve reliability. Also, the Max 10 will land slower than the B737-900NG as a result of improvements to the flaps. Also, moving the CG by shifting the engines slightly forward and adding the fuselage plugs in the right place, the tail-strike hazard will effectively be the same as the B737-800(NG).

I always find it refreshing when pilots think for themselves and rely on facts rather than group-think. Good luck.

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I’ll let my college buddy whose one of the lead engineers on the thing know you’re clearly ahead of them on the program.

Do you moonlight for Boeing’s marketing/propaganda dept?
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/united-details-more-737-max-10-features-438789/
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Quote: In all reality, rationalizing that some of the smaller planes are bumped up with pay banding is a bit naïve. Where it has really cost the pilots is rounding down the big equipment. The 747 guys took a huge hit in bankruptcy, and subsequently did not get appropriate raises due to a large plane based on productivity. Reason being, well, the 777-200 is a smaller plane. And now, the 767-400? Same as a 747-400? Not quite.

So, the high end of the pay has been irrevocably altered down with the pay bands of the smaller wide bodies. With the 747 gone, the 777-300 is now the big dog, and realistically has the same productivity the 747 had. But, to link the 767 there? I advocate against pay banding. It is not banding pay up to the 777 for the 767 guys, it is a rounding down of the 777 pay.
There is also a complete lack of basis for your claim that 747/777 pay has been rounded down.
Since the joint contract, UAL 747/777 Pay has been very near the top of the industry if not #1. To think that the pay would have been appreciably higher than “Industry leading” if it was unbanded is “naïve”.
And yes, your 747 pay took a large hit in bankruptcy. But wasn’t it proportional to the percentages of pay cut in other fleets?
And I’m not sure if you’re aware of this but the 764 only has about 20 less seats than some 772s we are flying around.
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Quote: There is also a complete lack of basis for your claim that 747/777 pay has been rounded down.
Since the joint contract, UAL 747/777 Pay has been very near the top of the industry if not #1. To think that the pay would have been appreciably higher than “Industry leading” if it was unbanded is “naïve”.
And yes, your 747 pay took a large hit in bankruptcy. But wasn’t it proportional to the percentages of pay cut in other fleets?
And I’m not sure if you’re aware of this but the 764 only has about 20 less seats than some 772s we are flying around.
And yet we pay the 767-300 83% of 787-8 pay which has only 2% more seats.
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It doesn’t really matter if the 767-400 was “rounded up” or the 747/777 was “rounded down.” They clearly don’t belong in the same band.

And that specific banding was done with ulterior motivations which both UAL ALPA and CAL ALPA agreed to for very different reasons.

But, if that actually is fair banding then there’s a bunch of 767-300, A319, and 737-700 pilots that will be looking for futher corrections in the next contract.
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Quote: And yet we pay the 767-300 83% of 787-8 pay which has only 2% more seats.
And over 100000 lbs heavier and flys .86 vs .81 so a trip across the pond on the 767 takes 20 min longer to fly. The 767 pays about the same on a per trip basis.
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Polish the turd more!!! The MAX 10 is a joke! I thought that the Guppy insanity would end with the ER. I am wrong!!! This is what happens when people that do not fly airplanes make decisions on airplanes. Boeing is in deep trouble!!! Airbus is taking them out to the woodshed!
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Quote: Polish the turd more!!! The MAX 10 is a joke! I thought that the Guppy insanity would end with the ER. I am wrong!!! This is what happens when people that do not fly airplanes make decisions on airplanes. Boeing is in deep trouble!!! Airbus is taking them out to the woodshed!
For the moment, last week, Airbus announced that they will not be doing another update on the A320. For now, the NEO is it. The new version would have been a true replacement for the 757. Then Boeing would have really been in a pickle.
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Quote: For the moment, last week, Airbus announced that they will not be doing another update on the A320. For now, the NEO is it. The new version would have been a true replacement for the 757. Then Boeing would have really been in a pickle.
Looking at the 321 NEO backlog compared to the MAX -9 and -10 I can see why Airbus is not in a hurry, especially now that the 321LR is in flight test.
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Quote: Polish the turd more!!! The MAX 10 is a joke! I thought that the Guppy insanity would end with the ER. I am wrong!!! This is what happens when people that do not fly airplanes make decisions on airplanes. Boeing is in deep trouble!!! Airbus is taking them out to the woodshed!
Neither the max or neo is a joke. They are just machines that we are paid good money to move from point to point. Until there is a clean sheet design they are all we have. Being that this company is heavily weighted towards Boeing, we shouldn’t be surprised that they picked the max. It is an efficient machine that will do the job well and generate revenue. The max 10 will never do all that the 757 can do, but it will do the vast majority of it while burning much less fuel. The 737 isn’t exactly a pilots airplane, it’s just a workhorse, and what we would rather fly just doesn’t matter. Even if the customers would prefer one over the other (most don’t even know what they’re sitting in), they don’t seem willing to vote with their dollars. They shop price and schedule.

Also, being that both manufacturers have significant backlogs, I don’t think either is in any real trouble or risk of going away.
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