OP, don't stress about training......as a regional CA you presumably by now get the airline game & have figured out what works for you. It should work here as well. Speaking from long experience incl. 3 complete A320 initials at 3 different airlines - this one's about the same as the rest.

Really...tell that to the multiple people who have either washed out of CA training and/or transition and are sucking it up back on the -80. Be prepared that our training department is substandard with the exception of most of the sim instructors/APDs (who really are the unsung heroes getting people through). The company wants to min cost training and have no problems cutting corners to do it (ground school BLOWS)...


That being said...this really is a good job, minus the management issues...

Sorry that wasn't my experience nor that of many others I know.....not like I'm Joe Ace Pilot or anything.

If you arrive to training thinking you are Chuck Yeager transitioning to an airplane that does everything for you, you will not be happy. Plan to give up a month of your life knuckling down and hitting the books. Pay close attention during FMS training and you'll do great.

Agreed; everyone does fine in the end though....at least from what I've heard. I wish the systems portion of the FCOM flowed a little better. When I went through, reading the old ASM cover to cover usually did the trick.

My estimate might have been overstated, since I never did it under this contract, but first year pilots on VBD are making that from what I understand. Non VBD pilots are probably making less.

50/50 toward applying? Huh? You don't have a decision to make until you're offered a job. There's never a penalty for applying! Throw your hat in the ring and see what happens. Allegiant has good days and really bad days, but every day is better than any regional out there, and the possibility to make $200K+ and be home every night can't be had at any airline.

The people who are washing out really deserve it and should probably not have a job here at all. However, there's plenty that should not work here and definitely should have failed but somehow make it through, usually because the guy making the call feels bad. #smallairlineproblems.

Anyhow, if you're a new FO enjoy flying with captains who've had multiple failures (during upgrade) and 60-100hours of upgrade OE but yet still have a demigod complex. You'll recognize them almost immediately.

Captains often get stuck flying with new FO's with similar issues, there's a good number of guys with 10 plus years at the regional that just DON'T KNOW how to fly. I'm not exaggerating. If you come here please put forth the same effort that the rest of us do. Leave your ego at the regional and forget how important you might've been over there. Come with an open mind and be ready to assimilate into our culture.

And if you're reading this thinking that I might be talking about you the answer is yes.

Fair enough, but you can't plan on VBD as a new hire either. The Bus VBD list is shrinking and the most junior pilot on it has been here 9 months. He was also the most junior pilot on it 6 months ago. You might could hold MD80 VBD as a new hire, but that's no guarantee. My point is as a new hire, I would plan on making Guarantee. If you get lucky and make more then great, but don't plan on good money until year two.


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How about taking some personal responsibility here buddy? Effort in is generally proportional to success rate.

Only 2 people have come back to the 80 and both were as a result of their own efforts, or lack there of. Both had prior training issues on the 80 as well.

They don't spoon feed you the information, but the information is there and help is readily available to ANYONE that asks for it.

If you can't make it though an Allegiant training program it's without a doubt your fault.