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Ur assumptions are correct. They might throw in free printing paper and free crew room cost to build that $74000 too.
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Quote: I got a post card in the mail yesterday from Commutair saying that you are hiring jet pilots and your airplanes are "Operated By Prospective United Pilots". Also that you are Tripling Fleet Size!

Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.

I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.
To be fair, CommutAir wasn't the first to advertise annual pay that way (several months ago, Air Wisconsin did- they now show it in a 3 year window; Trans States currently does, etc). Beginning in December, First Officers will begin @ $36.91/hour. At guarantee, that equals $33,219. Conservatively, most people figure crediting (not block) 1,000 hours in a year without trying hard, that would be $36,910. Honestly we don't have many work rules, but there are extra soft pay provisions not being included here. Add the bonus being paid to EVERYONE $22,100, that equals $59,010. Yes, they add in the cost of insurance, 401K, POSSIBLE (not guaranteed) performance bonuses, per diem, parking, uniforms & commuter hotel rooms. So put your own dollar amount to those benefits. My spouse has a really good job at a really big company and other than a few areas, our medical & dental insurance is better (again, subjective).

Will you fly with people that are in the CPP program- yes. Are there many awesome pilots here that aren't in the program, or haven't applied to it- yes.

As of now, our fleet is scheduled to go to 40 jets (we currently have 21 or 22). There is a MOU with United to go to 61 jets total. I don't think anyone here sees that happening without huge changes in contract, recruiting and retention improvements/additions. Right now, based on how upper management is handling many things, I don't personally know anyone who would recommend working here. Honestly, the next few months will be quite telling for our future...

Hope that gives you a little more insight.
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Quote: To be fair, CommutAir wasn't the first to advertise annual pay that way (several months ago, Air Wisconsin did- they now show it in a 3 year window; Trans States currently does, etc). Beginning in December, First Officers will begin @ $36.91/hour. At guarantee, that equals $33,219. Conservatively, most people figure crediting (not block) 1,000 hours in a year without trying hard, that would be $36,910. Honestly we don't have many work rules, but there are extra soft pay provisions not being included here. Add the bonus being paid to EVERYONE $22,100, that equals $59,010.

Hope that gives you a little more insight.
What's laughable is that NONE of this (including other airlines) represents training pay. You don't magically credit 1000 hours your first year when 3-8 months of it you are making min guarantee.
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Quote: I got a post card in the mail yesterday from Commutair saying that you are hiring jet pilots and your airplanes are "Operated By Prospective United Pilots". Also that you are Tripling Fleet Size!

Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.

I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.

I got the same post card today. Considering I haven't been in an airplane in 3 years nor had a medical for 2, they must be pretty desperate.
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Quote: I got the same post card today. Considering I haven't been in an airplane in 3 years nor had a medical for 2, they must be pretty desperate.
FlyJSH love your logo- is that the old North Central logo?
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Indeed; it is Herman the duck.

North Central Airlines history - hermantheduck.org - home page Enjoy. Read some of the stories; the guys talk about flying several different TYPES in a day.

That was when a regional airline served a REGION rather than a Master.
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Quote: I got a post card in the mail yesterday from Commutair saying that you are hiring jet pilots and your airplanes are "Operated By Prospective United Pilots". Also that you are Tripling Fleet Size!

Also that you have $74,000 in first year compensation. I assume this includes health care, 401k, travel benefits, and just about everything else.

I assume this is just really sleazy marketing and little of it is true.
Got the same post card. What's the skinny now compared to what has been previously posted?
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Quote: Got the same post card. What's the skinny now compared to what has been previously posted?
PM sent- check your msgs.
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[QUOTE=jbeauv;2450879]Anyone surfing this forum that is considering coming to Commutair, do yourself a huge favor and consider going to another carrier. The are far better options out there. If you have questions PM me.[/QUOT

Okay, I got this post card.... how accurate is any of it? I’m flying for Mesa and it’s a one leg commute for me right now. Please give me the skippy, I am supposed to skype interview on the 2nd.... thanks
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Why does commutair want 30 hours ME time, can’t you credit 25 hours in the sim?
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