The NMB and government shutdown.

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Quote: Yeah dude....... we already know we're underpaid. Good thing I don't ever seem to fly with people like the dipsticks we have on this site. If you aren't aware, everyone is already ****ed off and the work rules don't exactly do much to deter us from being angry. But congrats on trying to copy what many have felt cool saying for more than TWO years now.
You mad bro?
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Quote: You mad bro?
Nope, just sick of the tards on here saying the same thing over and over again like they are somehow part of a relevant conversation. My rant really wasn't about you but the masses ( maybe 10 or so ) on here. However you did say " you mad bro " so once again another original thought on APC.
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Quote: Nope, just sick of the tards on here saying the same thing over and over again like they are somehow part of a relevant conversation. My rant really wasn't about you but the masses ( maybe 10 or so ) on here. However you did say " you mad bro " so once again another original thought on APC.
Obviously you have become very angry in your working situation and I understand why. May I ask if you have your applications out to leave? I honestly think this will be the quickest way to get the respect you deserve.
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Quote: Why are we not bargaining for a higher min guarantee credit?

72 has always too seemed low.
Because days of work times five:
Half month off, 15x5=75 Guarantee
13 days off 17x5=85 Guarantee
14 days off 16x5=80 guarantee
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If every other PBS carrier out there experienced that change during bankruptcy/concessionary contracts...why are our guys embracing it at an all time industry high? One would think the NMB, if presented the argument, would give a rats a$$ what the company claims they can afford, if they were shown how costly their operations are run on a daily basis by the same guys saying they can't afford average pay rates. How do spirit pilots know what's being said at the table if guys get shut down during conference calls?
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Quote: If every other PBS carrier out there experienced that change during bankruptcy/concessionary contracts...why are our guys embracing it at an all time industry high? One would think the NMB, if presented the argument, would give a rats a$$ what the company claims they can afford, if they were shown how costly their operations are run on a daily basis by the same guys saying they can't afford average pay rates. How do spirit pilots know what's being said at the table if guys get shut down during conference calls?
Because I want to hack it.

....but mainly because it's better in every way.
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Quote: If every other PBS carrier out there experienced that change during bankruptcy/concessionary contracts...why are our guys embracing it at an all time industry high? One would think the NMB, if presented the argument, would give a rats a$$ what the company claims they can afford, if they were shown how costly their operations are run on a daily basis by the same guys saying they can't afford average pay rates. How do spirit pilots know what's being said at the table if guys get shut down during conference calls?
Honest question - who got shut down? I missed the first 15 minutes.
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Quote: Honest question - who got shut down? I missed the first 15 minutes.
Nobody. They hung up on one guy prematurely and told him to call back. He did and they answered his question
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Quote: Nobody. They hung up on one guy prematurely and told him to call back. He did and they answered his question
That's what I heard too. They told one guy to email them and honestly it was something that shouldn't have been public. Or at least served on a silver platter.
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Quote: Guarantee:
Fedex 304 x 74 x 12=269952
Ups 309 x 81 x 12=300348
United 328 x 73 x 12=287328
American 323 x 76 x 12=294576
Delta 330 x 65 x 12=257400
Yea but you’re talking about 25+ year with AA.. roughly top 15% get that $$$

777 -1987 DOH
787- 1990 DOH
330 -1985 DOH

If hired today at the age of 40, you will see 5-8 years of CA group IV pay, maybe!

767 is group III - $276 (Jan $285) - 1999 DOH
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