All the senior guys here were telling me that we would get a contract this wk for being *****s over the holidays!

So, how did that work for ya?

B###H Slap S m A c K.

Lol. Yeah I got the same word. However....my sources tell me it’s gone south again. Where is Tom when u need a suck ass deal.

You think being *****s for a couple months is going to get you a great contract? I’m sure they figure since you’ll bend over for that they can go ahead and drive it home now.

No not I

Those are the beliefs of the legacy group. As stated its Stockholm syndrome

YahooFINANCE
ATI Reaches Tentative Agreement with Pilots’ Union
Business Wire
Business WireFebruary 2, 2018
WILMINGTON, Ohio--(BUSINESS WIRE)--

Air Transport Services Group, Inc. (ATSG) said today that its subsidiary, Air Transport International, Inc., has reached a tentative agreement to amend the collective bargaining agreement with its pilots group, currently numbering more than 220 flight crew members.

ATI’s pilots are represented by the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA). ATI and ALPA have been negotiating amendments to the current collective bargaining agreement since it became amendable in May 2014. The tentative amended agreement would extend for four years from the date of ratification by the ATI pilots.


Terms of the tentative amended agreement were not disclosed, but will be presented to the ATI pilot group prior to holding a ratification vote. The vote is expected to be completed prior to the end of March.

About Air Transport Services Group, Inc. (ATSG)

ATSG is a leading provider of aircraft leasing and air cargo transportation and related services to domestic and foreign air carriers and other companies that outsource their air cargo lift requirements. Through its principal subsidiaries, including two airlines with separate and distinct U.S. FAA Part 121 Air Carrier certificates, ATSG provides aircraft leasing, air cargo lift, aircraft maintenance services and airport ground services. ATSG's subsidiaries include ABX Air, Inc.; Airborne Global Solutions, Inc.; Air Transport International, Inc.; Cargo Aircraft Management, Inc.; and Airborne Maintenance and Engineering Services, Inc. including its division, Pemco World Air Services, Inc.

Welp. That would make sense. I guess they’ll be setting the bar for ABX. Can’t wait to see this......

No retro
No signing bonus
“No Vote”

Just barely over Kalitta with an increase in rig by 3-4hr and pay rate the rest

Scheduling ???

Business OR BETTER ??

Scale wide cola, think not

It was only a matter of time before news like this comes out. It happens to be ATI at this go round. Before everyone, particularly ABX pilots, but it's inclusive to all 1224 pilots, jumps off the deep end speculating whether or not the ATI negotiations committee secured a quality agreement for their group take a moment of pause.

Time will tell all...

Hopefully they have an A+ deal on the table, if not don't be too quickly to pull the trigger on these guys. The group as a whole may in fact vote it down if required; that in itself can be a message to their company and the industry as a whole.

Congrats if it's good....time will tell all.

I find it interesting that majority making comments on this contract don't even work for ATI. As a matter of fact, that seems to be the case overall...in my observation. The hidden profane language also shows what kind of mind some may have (eg. midnightshuttle). Sorry, Another observation. Comment on your own contracts. Realize we are all fighting for a better life and maybe look in the mirror occasionally.

Any word on the Retirement? That's a HUGE difference between where K4 is because they get very little there... K4's rate +10% with good work rules and a 15% direct contribution into a 401k would be huge for all of ACMI. K4's rate with their work rules and retirement would be a joke...