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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
Biz, before this goes any further, understand I have not once said any VX pilot is "bottom of the barrel, regional scum, punks" or any of the other names that are being thrown around on here. I'm also not criticizing VX pilots. If you go back and read this thread from page one, I'm responding to the few posters that resort to calling the AS pilots clowns, spineless and weak. I think that it's quite hypocritical to throw around garbage like that when, no matter how you slice it, you and all other VX pilots accepted less in a number of areas, in order to work there. One poster said he accepted less because his QOL was "in another Universe" another poster said he accepted less because he was having fun at work and now you're saying you accepted less because there was a promise of more later. Now please understand, I'm not judging you or any others for your decisions. This has nothing to do with thinking any less of you or VX in general. My point is solely that you disqualify yourself from telling anyone else they are weak or spineless for accepting less when you yourself have accepted less. Neither pilot group has the moral high ground in this whole thing. Both groups have overlooked sub par language in order to maintain their perceived QOL or whatever other motivating factors drove them to do so. With that said, neither group can rightfully say the other is weak or spineless. So as I said earlier in this thread, do we continue to call each other weak or do we fight for better, TOGETHER???
Sorry for the misunderstanding KnockKnock but I was not attributing the
"bottom of the barrel, regional scum, punks" comments specifically to you.
As for the "Pot Calling the Kettle Black Argument", if you ignore history, then it is quite easy to knock the VX group for going to a start up and accepting sub-par wage. If we are honest with ourselves though, (again it is extremely important to examine where the cream of the crop in compensation like FedEx and Southwest are now vs where they were at their own very beginning) we will realize that the management of any start-up airline will never pay industry standard at the outset and invariably the pilots will have to fight to get it up to/close to where it needs to be.
So okay, to your point, both groups settled or accepted less than what was desirable but the BIG difference I see, and this was so well said in one of the posts above this one, is that while our AS brothers collectively seem to have given up the fight and are resigned to defeat in dealing with their management, the VX pilots (again, collectively) were energized and ready to sacrifice if needs be, in order to exact from the then VX management what we were convinced was long overdue. (the economic climate was certainly in our favor).
I am certain that the VX side still has that energy (even more so now) and I am sure that there are guys on the AS side that also still have that energy. I am hoping that the synergy from the combined group will allow us to rally each other to storm and breach what seems like an impenetrable fortress and avail ourselves of the spoils that we truly deserve. (I'm feeling like a Barbarian right now