Will Endeavor Air merge with Compass

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Quote: The flying split will be 44% 9E, 28% RW/OO each.
There is no path for YX (that's Republic now, not RW) to 28% without either the Compass birds or the GoJet birds. And no path for OO to 28% without giving up airplanes, even if you exclude 50 seat flying...
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Quote: Remember when RJET took over a bunch of Ejet delivery positions from a EU operator when they announced those @50 additional Ejets for UAL pre-bankruptcy? I think it may have been FlyBE, but my memory is fuzzy.

I do, however, vividly remember being in recurrent class a day or two after that announcement. Wayne Heller himself came in to talk to us, I imagine since he knew that spirits would be high. He told us that before they were able to secure those additional delivery slots, Republic had been in talks with Bombardier to buy CRJ 900s to do that flying.

If Bedford sees a way to make more money or better position his company, nothing is off the table.
Well I can remember the day when BB had to take the old Independence Air CRJs out of the desert to cover the CO flying when Expressjet kept 60ish EMB 145s as branded flying instead of returning them to Continental for RP to fly. BB came in during a break in recurrent training, and when asked if this meant we would be getting more Bombardier products, he said the CRJs would only be on the certificate until the day came he could send them back to the desert and replace them with EMB 145s. He then went on to elaborate on how inferior the Bombardier CRJ products were in comparison to the 145 and 175.

Not saying BB wouldn't do anything to make money, but he hates CRJs, and that came right out of BBs mouth.
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Quote: If this actually takes place. Realize 9e pilots have no say at all. We haven’t undercut anyone. Exactly the opposite.
Making sure no one forgets that we hold the moral (and financial) high ground, is probably not what he had in mind by not being douches about it.
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Quote: To include the handful at Skywest?
Yes...long term plan. Any regional carrier that is operating non Delta flights compromise the brand. Delta wants loyalty long term and will see that through in phases throughout the next couple years. In the end, 9E will operate all "regional" flying for Delta, which in turn, will provide a "seamless" experience for their loyal passengers.
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Quote: Yes...long term plan. Any regional carrier that is operating non Delta flights compromise the brand. Delta wants loyalty long term and will see that through in phases throughout the next couple years. In the end, 9E will operate all "regional" flying for Delta, which in turn, will provide a "seamless" experience for their loyal passengers.
Unless you're being sarcastic I can't see this happening, at least not anytime soon. Skywest is too big and own their airplanes. RPA is also of decent size. We are already scraping the bottom of the barrel for pilots even with the "industry leading pay". DL will have to purchase all those airplanes from them or buy new ones, get the 175s on our cert, hire enough to cover that plus the CRJs, etc, etc, plus we're still a regional so they want to be able to make sure we behave, and making us the only one would make it where we could pretty much do whatever we wanted. And if you want to talk about seamless experience, look at a Skywest cabin crew and look at one of our NYC cabin crews. I mean, when DL's "gold standard" regional hires FAs that can't pronounce the word "salmon" correctly to those lovely first class pax TW and company all but ask us to perfrom oral on while wearing our hats, I think there's a long way to go towards "seamlessness".
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Quote: Unless you're being sarcastic I can't see this happening, at least not anytime soon. Skywest is too big and own their airplanes. RPA is also of decent size. We are already scraping the bottom of the barrel for pilots even with the "industry leading pay". DL will have to purchase all those airplanes from them or buy new ones, get the 175s on our cert, hire enough to cover that plus the CRJs, etc, etc, plus we're still a regional so they want to be able to make sure we behave, and making us the only one would make it where we could pretty much do whatever we wanted. And if you want to talk about seamless experience, look at a Skywest cabin crew and look at one of our NYC cabin crews. I mean, when DL's "gold standard" regional hires FAs that can't pronounce the word "salmon" correctly to those lovely first class pax TW and company all but ask us to perfrom oral on while wearing our hats, I think there's a long way to go towards "seamlessness".
Lol, I hear ya. Last thing I heard about Endeavor and Delta had us doing 46%, I think.
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Quote: Yes...long term plan. Any regional carrier that is operating non Delta flights compromise the brand. Delta wants loyalty long term and will see that through in phases throughout the next couple years. In the end, 9E will operate all "regional" flying for Delta, which in turn, will provide a "seamless" experience for their loyal passengers.
DL just awarded 30 E175SC to OO - that is a 12 year contract. Why would they do that if they want one regional?
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Quote: DL just awarded 30 E175SC to OO - that is a 12 year contract. Why would they do that if they want one regional?
Because they don't. Even if they did, it would be physically impossible because they wouldn't be able to staff us to that level, and it would still probably take 12 years to implement. I would believe they'll give us all of their owned CRJs since the only ones left really are the gojet ones and the few skywest has, and we have shown the ability to perform fairly well against the odds in NYC with the CRJ. Will be interesting to see how well OO does in LGA however. Looks like they lost their last selling point that there's no NYC base.
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Quote: DL just awarded 30 E175SC to OO - that is a 12 year contract. Why would they do that if they want one regional?
Because their CapEx on that order was zero...
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OO is going no where so long as they own those gates.
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