Wow.. and when's the alpa vote?

Wow if only you had a union.

Those who went to a non union startup carrier, knowing they could have their way with you, don't get the right to complain.

"bUt sKYwESt tREaTEd uS sO gOOd!"

I think people expected a better outcome and more competent decision making. Avelo seems to be doing just fine, they recognized reality and did what they needed to do to remain competitive. Sucks things aren't going so well at Breeze.

Breeze was trying (not very hard) to keep cheap labor until IPO at least. They’ve already had over a year. And now they want one more. It’s not gonna happen. Time is up.

This is the best revenue environment ever for a startup. Breeze has shot themselves in the foot with all the delays.

Do you think they will ever get it turned around before running out of money? They have to be burning up cash at a ridiculous rate. They also seem to be attempting to expand too quickly which defies common sense given the current situation. Avelo on the other hand seems to have a much more realistic outlook on what's actually possible, and what kind of compensation and QOL they need to provide for people to stay there and give them a chance. I'd have thought by now that even if Breeze wasn't paying so well, they would make up for it in QOL, but they've done nothing but make QOL worse.

Neeleman’s in his wheelhouse when the pilot market is struggling. That’s how JetBlue became what it is today. He could have it his way soon depending how the economy is moving forward. Right now though he’s never had to deal with what we’re seeing now industrywide.

There have been stories from pilots who have talked to him and he said he is hoping for a bigger depression than what is expected.

That’s exactly what allegiant management is praying for every day. They’re out of luck. This recession won’t mitigate the massive amount retirements at the legacies. They need a nuclear exchange to get what they desperately want.

This is what remains to be seen, I think. We haven't gotten to the Build Back Better food prices quite yet. Fall will tell the story of if people will continue to be able to afford travel or not. The last of the covid savings/stimulous are being spent this summer. Layoffs in other industries have already started, and last I read Q2 will also show a decline in GDP meaning we are officially in a recession already. We'll find out by January how much of a pilot shortage there is. At least it might give training a chance to catch up. If they get what they're hoping for like you said, we'll be in for another lost decade.