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tom11011 , 11-22-2018 04:23 PM

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Might be best to start recording sessions.

#32

ecam , 11-23-2018 07:29 AM

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Well well looks like we trolled management out.

Now today several minions will be tasked with trying to find out who all of us are in real life. Enjoy your next training event gentlemen.

#33

JustWatching , 11-23-2018 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecam

Well well looks like we trolled management out.

Now today several minions will be tasked with trying to find out who all of us are in real life. Enjoy your next training event gentlemen.

Wow... Once again you prove yourself to be a tool. The man was asking for information on a subject that is extremely important to both sides. You just want a one sided b!tch session. Enough already. Provide something constructive or go away.

#34

captjns , 11-23-2018 04:57 PM

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No matter the airline... it’s training department is a living entity with a dynamic changes. Training will not improve without surveys being completed after a training event.

It’s important that one be part of a solution rather than part of a perceived or in some cases a real problem. Pilot meetings are valid venues to bring by individuals who have concerns of addressing such issues with their chief pilots, if they are in fear of reprisals.

#35

tyler durden , 11-23-2018 05:20 PM

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At least this manager identified himself by name. Ballsy/class act. Not surprised, straight shooter.

#36

ecam , 11-24-2018 06:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JustWatching

There you go again throwing people out of a house you don't own because you don't like what they said about someone other than you.

Kind of a tool move there.

And if you don't think they really do research us who post here, go talk to Rory or any number of pilots who have been called on the carpet for posts on this site.

#37

JustWatching , 11-24-2018 06:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecam

You’re completely missing the point..... again.

Yes, they know who you (we) are. This site is not anonymous. Knowing that, you shouldn’t be calling the Dir of Training a tool when he asks for honest feedback.

#38

ecam , 11-24-2018 07:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JustWatching

I never said he was a tool. You said i am a tool. I said i couldn't believe we trolled management out and that I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking us up and would contact us.

Reading and comprehension is important. You lose….. again.

#39

ecam , 11-24-2018 07:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler H G4

Good morning,

This forum thing is new to me but as it keeps being brought to my attention, I figured perhaps its a great way to open new lines of communication.

There is a lot of information in here so I will attempt to address as much as I can before the family gives me the sideways glare. The perception of the training department is bothersome, so many things have improved and yet there is so much left to work on, as it should be. The day you stop striving for better is the day you should walk away. I keep reading that AQP will be the solution and as a training system it is a great one, however, it is highly dependent on the calibration of check pilots and instructors; Without them the program will most certainly fail. Ecam, AQP will be here, and rest assured it is not delayed on the accounts of my alleged quest for power. Most of the comments in here refer to issues with the people, not the program. My concern with this is the feedback I get on a daily basis is how great the instructors are. Instructors "yelling during an RFT", APD's "out to get people" have not been brought to my attention. There are always two sides of a story and the point is, if this is happening let me hear your side through official channels. Let's look in to the situation so we can correct it and keep working towards what we all want. It does not matter where we are today, or where we want to go, everyone deserves to show up to training and be treated like a professional. I strongly believe that we have a fantastic group of instructors and check airman who are passionate about teaching and truly care about this company and its pilot group. That being said, if there needs to be a re-calibration of expectations, then please step up and let me know the when, where, and who. Be part of the solution and although this is a great place to vent, it doesn't drive change or help fix anything.

Finally, I want to state that I am proud of this pilot group, I agree that the G4 crew members are some of the best in the industry and I am thankful and humbled to be associated with them. If anyone would like to contact me please feel free to do so at any time. I would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, enjoy your families, if you are flying be safe and as Mr. Burgundy would say, "keep it classy Allegiant".

Thank you

Thanks for joining us. I hope you take these comments to heart and work on the problems many have brought up with the training culture instead of blowing them off and writing us off as miscreants. I have nothing against you personally, and in fact, I wasn't even referring to you when I talked about problem children in flight standards management. I think you do a decent job and care.

#40

Captainbfv , 11-24-2018 07:36 AM

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