They only fly it if they can hold it.

There was at least one 88 FO SLI who was an 88A. He made the choice he made. His option what seat he wanted to fly/bid at, but pay is the same. Choice ain't a bad thing I think, either way PWA allows it.

No, on their fly months they bid as a captain at their current seniority. The one I have met who does it is about 10 from the bottom of ATL 320A. It was perplexing to me, that they would want to do that for the same pay and worse seniority, but I think a big part of it is that they get to fly with their favorite captain on every trip. Also, they are accruing block hours as a captain which could translate into a different job in the training department.

I don't really see a problem with it. It is a very small minority.

The problem is having Captains fly at FO pay. That's rediculous and we shouldn't allow it. It might be acceptable if another CA was bought off and then the FO pay Captain was over and above that (I'm still not crazy about it though) but no one should be able to take a month's worth of CA time at FO pay.

So you are advocating for a training department pay cut. Management is all ears!

What B position pays more than the same longevity step A position? Don't count the RJ's and E-jets that have pay tables but aren't on property.

How would that be a pay cut? And other than someone wanting to log PIC time for their resume, what advantage is it to the pilot group to allow Captains to fly for FO pay?

If there was some very narrow technicallity where that was the case, then it could be fixed by saying they could only fly as FO for FO pay (777 pay for almost all of them anyway right?)

Yeah, I can see both sides of the argument. It wouldn't be a pay cut for the SLI person to not be able to fly as a captain. If that were the case, they would probably just bid back to the line as an A for a while and get their hours and go back. Some do that anyway.

So at the atlanta base visit the handout says the AE will be second week of April. Didn't we hear from the NYC base meeting that it will be 15 March? Am I missing something?

We'll find out this week when Crew Resources does their monthly thing.

Maybe we will get a better idea, but the bottom line is we will not know for certain until the bid is released and the awards are published.


Scoop

it's self inflicted. Maybe said person is doing it to get PIC time to come back as an APD, maybe it's just an ego thing, there are numerous reasons. However, if you can stomach being in the sim most of the time and you live in atlanta working as a SLI is a pretty lucrative gig so i don't see any problem with it.