This recent hire won’t fall for it! No PBS, no scope relief, no give backs.

I’m not being critical, nor am I challenging anyone’s credibility—just pointing out that about 50% of our new hires have no airline experience and it’s important to address the big ticket items with background information/history so they truly can vote for long term gains that benefit all of us. The modern times of the big hiring affects all carriers, so it’s even more important to educate right away.

Unfortunately, I’ve been in the jumpseat commuting and have experienced FOs with less than five years clearly on the side of management and in opposition to the pilot group. It’s not limited to that DAL captain.

I was surprised that as a newhire, I had the ability to vote while on probation (different from my last 121 gig).

I am confident in our new hires! I was one not long ago.

Unfortunately the days of Herb are gone. The BOD retained FH a few years ago. The first step in FH strategy is to find loopholes and reinterpret loose language, all the while breaking down relationships between employees and employee groups, the part of our culture that made our company successful and unique. We’ve been seeing this with MX.

By retaining such a firm the BoD has decided that the corporate status quo is more important than our history and culture. Have all the fond memories you want, but we have to adapt to the current corporate environment if we’re going to have a satisfactory TA.

In this environment there is no reason we can’t have industry leading pay and all the other benefits (that are standard at other companies) as well.

If you look at the demographic of the pilot group, a large portion are new on property or junior in their seat. I think there will be different expectations with the next contract.

If I remember correctly, the junior base FOs were the most resounding NO votes on TA1 during our last round of negotiations. I think OAK FOs were something like +80% NO votes, whereas at senior bases like ATL, the majority of FOs actually voted yes! I can't imagine the demographics of where our new hires came from then are that much different than our current group of new hires. Continue to educate and have faith that not everyone fresh out of training is drunk on koolaid.


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