I know this was abandoned by the company within the last couple years, but has anyone heard any rumors of beyond 2022 or 23 that American will take another look at the A350 acquisition? They already have a sim they fill with Delta pilots.

Naw, that order was canceled. I don’t see any A350 coming onto property with the amount of 787s that the company have on order.


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A little back story I heard, but it may not be 100% accurate: When the Boeing vs Bombardier legal fight was going on, regarding Boeing petitioning for an import tariff against the C series being sold to Delta, Airbus saved the day by taking over 51% of the C series, rebranding it the A220, thus skirting around the fees. Delta, in disgust with Boeing, dumped all of their 787 options and replaced them with A350 options. AA was able to pick up those 787 options on the cheap, and canceled all options for the 350. That's the way I've heard it, at least...

Not to derail, but I heard a rumor on the jumpseat the other day that Embraer made a deal with Parker to replace the E-190's with E-195 E2's. Although I understand the 190's were to be parked. First I've heard of that. Anyone hear likewise? If true, I hope they go on group 2, and get rid of that group 1 scale.

Seriously doubt it. They seem to be content with 319s and E175s. But hey, been wrong before. Or so my wife says.

The company must file documents with the SEC every quarter and on them, they list their fleet plans. If this were true it would be a very recent development. All signs point to simplifying their fleet makeup.

Regarding the 787s, Airbus said they were offered at a lower price than they could compete with.

Delta typically doesn't hold grudges in regards to aircraft orders. They have also ordered B737's.

I am fairly certain we got a smoking deal on those 787's. I remember Vasu Raja (VP of Network) discussing something like this on a "Tell me why" last year. Not the exact verbiage, but it was a question along the lines of why don't we replace worn out, less efficient 767's with a more efficient plane like a 787. His answer was that even though the older plane was less efficient, it was paid for. When you look at costs, there's day-to-day operating cost, and there's the initial purchase cost. Too much of one could offset the other. Then several months later we announced that we are replacing 767's with 787's. That makes me believe (hope) that the initial price we paid was so low as to make it worth putting these new planes on those routes.

But I'm just a pilot. It does what it's told.

I think you will need to buy a 350 sim first. Pretty sure the one you had was sold, boxed up and shipped to a ME3 carrier. Because of that, Delta is now using the Airbus facility in MIA for overflow 350 training.

We don’t have nearly enough 787s on order. Count up all the 772s, 767s, and 330s and you can see the numbers don’t add up. Unless the long term plan is 321 Neos to Europe, 737 Max to Central America, and further farming out of long haul flying to JV partners.

It was still sitting there two weeks ago in GSW.

Fail comment. You make an assumption that can be verified as completely wrong in about 30 seconds.

It’s still at the AA training center and currently as I look at it, up and running with Delta crew inside.

BTW....the Delta 350 instructors are making huge bank. This is TDY for them the whole time they are gone from ATL. Being paid huge overage