The case for the 797 would be a dual isle aircraft that burns less than the 757 it is replacing, and is sized enough to replace the 767. As sailingfun said months ago, the Asian carriers want cargo space, so they will opt for the 787 anyway. The case for the 797 is pretty small.


As a side note, the A350neo is going to be offered for sale soon. I expect Delta to get that plane.

So why aren't we comparing the 787-800 to the 767-300ER?

It should be compared with the 767-200. Comparing a stretched version with a base version is not apples to apples.

How many 767-200s are still around in passenger service vs 767-300s?

If the stretched version of one is of a similar size as the base version of another it is quite valid to compare them to each other.

By your logic the 757-200 shouldn't ever be compared to the 737-900 when discussing performance.

There really is no value for Delta to purchase any Boeing aircraft going forward. The discussion is probably moot. I would look at the A225, A321XLR, and A350neo as the next purchases by 2025. Further boosting the maintenance relationship with Airbus should also be a major priority. Dump the CRJ 200s, 767s, 717s, 757s, 777s, all MDs, and some 73 7/8s.

There won’t be very many 787-800’s in service in 20 years. Hardly any are being sold now.

That’s a neat graphic. Didn’t really understand the differences. MOM looks pretty good for us - business case for BA, not so much.

Great. Let's just change branding to Air France.

We need the 225, but Airbus doesn't. Neither does the rest of the world. Just us.

We paraded our 717s and 90s around as an alternative to buying new technology, which we are just too good to do, and in a blink of an eye watched the neos get 6000 orders and the max 5000, for 11000 total. Of which we secured 100 321neos and an option for 100 more. Out of 11000. But we have 90s and 71s! Whoops.

I think we kind of screwed up.

And I think Airbus will balk at replacing the 320neo with the 225 especially if the max really takes a long term beating and the 320neo keeps printing money for Airbus. And by the time the 225 is designed and tested it's based on a 25 year old design that doesn't match the thousands of other Buses, and Airbus loves to promote commonality.

If Airbus wanted something new they'd probably design it themselves, they have the money. And they're not even working on it. We need to buy 320neos, while we can.

Actually, you know who needs the 225?

Boeing.