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Old 03-25-2019, 03:36 AM   #51  
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A220 orders (we have 90) from wikipedia


And Moxy has 60 and Republic has 40.
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And Moxy has 60 and Republic has 40.
What about the JetBlue order for the 220-300?
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Over the last few years, the MAX8 has been outselling the 320NEO because it has better CASM. This is due to it having a few more seats vs the 320NEO. The 320NEO has been rumored to grow by 10-20 seats. That would give it superior economics to the popular (not at the moment) MAX 8. This also makes space for the 220-500 business case. Either way, a -500 won't come until the A220 supply line matures. Could be a while, or never. But when the CEO says "In the future Airbus is going to want to bring on the 500..", it's not just unsubstantiated fan speak.

So you have potentially by seats :
110-120 =A220-100
130-140 =A220-300
150-160 =A220-500
170-180 =320NEO+
190-200 =321NEO
210-230 =??NMA XLR/322
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Right now the CASM for the Max is undefined as you can't divide by zero
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What about the JetBlue order for the 220-300?
60. Air Canada 45 and delta 90.

I was showing 100 of those orders are not real unless I missed something and Moxy is becoming a real thing and republic is taking the jets.
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Right now the CASM for the Max is undefined as you can't divide by zero
That is temporary, the investigation hasnt been finished. Boeing could be vindicated on the MCAS for all we know.
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We need the 225, but Airbus doesn't. Neither does the rest of the world. Just us.
I don't look at it as stepping on another product. Airbus has to do something with the manufacturing line they're creating for the A220. If an A225 is something that keeps that line going, because Delta wants 100 of them, they will probably go for it. I doubt the A220 affects sales of the A320 for the very reason you cite, lack of commonality.

It's not feasible for any manufacturer to develop a clean slate design for any midsize narrowbody at this time. There isn't enough savings in a new design to justify the cost of the program. That's why Boeing is hurting so much on the 737 as we talked about in the other thread. They are stuck with that thing no matter what.
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Over the last few years, the MAX8 has been outselling the 320NEO because it has better CASM. This is due to it having a few more seats vs the 320NEO. The 320NEO has been rumored to grow by 10-20 seats. That would give it superior economics to the popular (not at the moment) MAX 8. This also makes space for the 220-500 business case. Either way, a -500 won't come until the A220 supply line matures. Could be a while, or never. But when the CEO says "In the future Airbus is going to want to bring on the 500..", it's not just unsubstantiated fan speak.

So you have potentially by seats :
110-120 =A220-100
130-140 =A220-300
150-160 =A220-500
170-180 =320NEO+
190-200 =321NEO
210-230 =??NMA XLR/322
I jump seated on Spirit last week and asked the pilots how their NEO fleet was performing. Was it as efficient as Airbus claimed. He said up until a week and a half ago, their entire NEO fleet was grounded because of a lot of fume events. They grounded the entire fleet but now its flying again. I hadnt heard that before that flight.
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