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02-01-2021 | 08:53 AM

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I’d imagine the A220s would be better suited to take over the 717 flying no? I remember when flying some DCI routes in the past with CR7&9s, quite a bit of those got upgraded to the 717 and the A220-100 would be a 1 for 1 replacement at least capacity wise.

Not from what I understand. The 717 replacement for DCI routes seems to focus on shorter routes that had high frequency. Think Chattanooga and Augusta from ATL. The A220 seems to go on routes that are longer and thinner that compete against another carrier’s hub. More like Delta flying the A220 from BOS to American’s DFW hub. A220 is a superior product with great fuel efficiency. That’s why it wins over the 717 and not necessarily are 1 for 1 replacement to the 717. That’s the perspective from an outsider looking in.

02-01-2021 | 09:30 AM

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Agreed it is superior in product & efficiency. It will certainly be interesting to see how the DL network folks replace/upguage the 717 flying going forward.

02-01-2021 | 09:39 AM

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Agreed it is superior in product & efficiency. It will certainly be interesting to see how the DL network folks replace/upguage the 717 flying going forward.

Especially since the large RJ "armada" is permanently reduced by 35.

02-01-2021 | 09:42 AM

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Especially since the large RJ "armada" is permanently reduced by 35.

Well, it is supposed to be anyway...

02-01-2021 | 09:47 AM

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Current plan is parked 717s will not return. Going forward with 50ish and will gradually retire those planes. Salute to the 717

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02-01-2021 | 09:53 AM

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Well, it is supposed to be anyway...

The longer they wait the more it will cost them. Those 35 will be gone and I don't think we'll give any relief on that.

02-01-2021 | 10:01 AM

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The longer they wait the more it will cost them. Those 35 will be gone and I don't think we'll give any relief on that.

Not to mention 50-60 50 seat jets gone now, and the rest by the end of 2023.

02-01-2021 | 10:10 AM

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Current plan is parked 717s will not return. Going forward with 50ish and will gradually retire those planes. Salute to the 717

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So here’s the next displacement to enable a 365 bid on the next AE. Who’s going to bid DTW717 now and bet on being last to displace out of it (and sit NQAT) when the category closes???

02-01-2021 | 02:46 PM

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9 left the fleet in January alone.

https://twitter.com/JetTipNet/status...50487122096129

02-01-2021 | 03:00 PM

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9 left the fleet in January alone.

https://twitter.com/JetTipNet/status...50487122096129

That tweet also shows that JetBlue dumped 6 A321's. I seriously doubt that is meant to show permanent retirements, but instead probably a temporary operational reduction due the normal post Christmas lull. The AE that closed today is supposed to add 70 717Bs, so it's not like the category is shrinking.