Company reneged on pay package - Page 19 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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29Eleven , 06-25-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by buddies8

So who cares, you will flow when you flow. Theres no short cuts. Run any numbers you want. Attrition may reduce your time to flow and no attrition will keep your flow where it is. Your not getting there any sooner.

People care because the company advertises 5.5-6 and the numbers don’t support that.

#182

blackbox348 , 06-25-2019 09:01 AM

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Any negotiation updates? Are we even negotiating anymore?

#183

highfarfast , 06-25-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cujo665

even at 250-300 a year it's 1375-1650 flowing in 5.5 years.
Many are still leaving to Delta, United, Fedex/UPS when over 2nd year; yes most of the 300 are junior, but you're still getting 50-100 yearly from higher up. That's another 275-550 over the same 5.5 years.

totals 1650-2200 over the 5.5 years.

their math works.

I had this same argument when they first said 5.5/2.5 over 5 years ago. Said the same thing then, the math works. I has worked fairly closely to their projection. On upgrades it worked even better with instant upgrades. That's fact. I was told I was wrong back then too by guys like you.

Some of your numbers are off. For one, unless the company does something drastically different than it historically does, it will flow well under 200 next year.

#184

Weekendwarrior2 , 06-25-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blackbox348

Any negotiation updates? Are we even negotiating anymore?

This^^ I mean it’s getting ridiculous. (Not the unions fault), but just a half a** email from RW not explaining anything.

#185

pitchattitude , 06-25-2019 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2

This^^ I mean it’s getting ridiculous. (Not the unions fault), but just a half a** email from RW not explaining anything.

Company’s not going to admit that they don’t have any authority or are just stonewalling. Who knows which is true, but either way, it’s just bs.

#186

Houpilot2001 , 06-25-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2

This^^ I mean it’s getting ridiculous. (Not the unions fault), but just a half a** email from RW not explaining anything.

Agree, it's been 2 weeks since the AIP was signed. Hope to hear something soon but not holding my breath. Hopefully some light will be shed after today's PUB event and MEC meetings.

FUPM

#187

UnprotectdPilot , 06-25-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Houpilot2001

Agree, it's been 2 weeks since the AIP was signed. Hope to hear something soon but not holding my breath. Hopefully some light will be shed after today's PUB event and MEC meetings.

FUPM

Same.

#FUPM
#MEGA

#188

Cujo665 , 06-25-2019 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

Some of your numbers are off. For one, unless the company does something drastically different than it historically does, it will flow well under 200 next year.

You might need to explain that.... just a little...

#189

Tellheritwasntu , 06-25-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cujo665

You might need to explain that.... just a little

Sometime next year, approximately January, flow drops to 15 a month for roughly 10 months and then resumes at a rate of ~21/mo after that at current staffing levels. Do the math and best case scenario is less than 200 next year (unless something drastically changes).

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ERAUAV8TR , 06-25-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tellheritwasntu

Union will grieve once it hits 15...more waiting!!!