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Old 06-25-2019 | 04:50 PM
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Also don’t forget the raises EDV, XJT, republic had way back when.

Keep the above in perspective as/when the company keeps coming back at you allegedly neutered by AAG for concessions on the AIP.

I’m still trying to work out why ENY has anyone in management at all.
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Old 06-25-2019 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Union will grieve once it hits 15...more waiting!!!
Grieve what? It's in the contract.
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Old 06-25-2019 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by use2fly
Grieve what? It's in the contract.
Brah! U must be new! Why are we at 29 peeps company reneged (common theme) on 50 percent so we got an accelerated 12 (SP benefit) and increase to 29 instead of 50 percent...next group will be 35% of all AA new hire training slots, no fewer than 15 per month can be withheld by Envoy. We will not get 35 percent so grieve and get a few more...cycle continues...hopefully union doesn’t drop the ball
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Old 06-25-2019 | 06:34 PM
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That's not how I read it.
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Old 06-25-2019 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Brah! U must be new! Why are we at 29 peeps company reneged (common theme) on 50 percent so we got an accelerated 12 (SP benefit) and increase to 29 instead of 50 percent...next group will be 35% of all AA new hire training slots, no fewer than 15 per month can be withheld by Envoy. We will not get 35 percent so grieve and get a few more...cycle continues...hopefully union doesn’t drop the ball
Might want to reread the grievance settlement... not only did they settle the protected pilots but also gave new language to the next 2 groups.
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Old 06-25-2019 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Brah! U must be new! Why are we at 29 peeps company reneged (common theme) on 50 percent so we got an accelerated 12 (SP benefit) and increase to 29 instead of 50 percent...next group will be 35% of all AA new hire training slots, no fewer than 15 per month can be withheld by Envoy. We will not get 35 percent so grieve and get a few more...cycle continues...hopefully union doesn’t drop the ball
Good luck.
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Old 06-25-2019 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by moon
Might want to reread the grievance settlement... not only did they settle the protected pilots but also gave new language to the next 2 groups.
Review the communication that came with that...says they grieve it once again when the new group approaches
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Old 06-25-2019 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
You might need to explain that.... just a little...
Tellheritwasntu did it for me.

Originally Posted by Tellheritwasntu
Sometime next year, approximately January, flow drops to 15 a month for roughly 10 months and then resumes at a rate of ~21/mo after that at current staffing levels. Do the math and best case scenario is less than 200 next year (unless something drastically changes).
Thanks.
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Old 06-25-2019 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Review the communication that came with that...says they grieve it once again when the new group approaches
My mind continues to be blown at the naïveté of this group. The LOA gave up any chance for flow interpretations and still we have people that have no clue. Next we have people that have actually read it and think that a grievance would actually do anything. I guess technically you can file a grievance for whatever you want. In fact, I’ll file one along side that one because a $70 pay rate should really be $100 if you round up.
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Old 06-26-2019 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mketch11
My mind continues to be blown at the naïveté of this group. The LOA gave up any chance for flow interpretations and still we have people that have no clue. Next we have people that have actually read it and think that a grievance would actually do anything. I guess technically you can file a grievance for whatever you want. In fact, I’ll file one along side that one because a $70 pay rate should really be $100 if you round up.
Well the grievance “worked” for the PP. Granted we settled outside of arbitration but we still made some improvements.

It’s crazy what people can interpret in our contract. I know it’s hard to read and it doesn’t always mean what it says but pretty sure this one is cut and dry that the company and union agree metering to 15 is contractual.
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