Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional > Envoy Airlines
Company reneged on pay package >

Company reneged on pay package

Search

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

Company reneged on pay package

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-25-2019 | 08:58 AM
  #181  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by buddies8
So who cares, you will flow when you flow. Theres no short cuts. Run any numbers you want. Attrition may reduce your time to flow and no attrition will keep your flow where it is. Your not getting there any sooner.
People care because the company advertises 5.5-6 and the numbers don’t support that.
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 09:01 AM
  #182  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 385
Likes: 1
Default

Any negotiation updates? Are we even negotiating anymore?
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 09:40 AM
  #183  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,607
Likes: 12
Default

Originally Posted by Cujo665
even at 250-300 a year it's 1375-1650 flowing in 5.5 years.
Many are still leaving to Delta, United, Fedex/UPS when over 2nd year; yes most of the 300 are junior, but you're still getting 50-100 yearly from higher up. That's another 275-550 over the same 5.5 years.

totals 1650-2200 over the 5.5 years.

their math works.

I had this same argument when they first said 5.5/2.5 over 5 years ago. Said the same thing then, the math works. I has worked fairly closely to their projection. On upgrades it worked even better with instant upgrades. That's fact. I was told I was wrong back then too by guys like you.
Some of your numbers are off. For one, unless the company does something drastically different than it historically does, it will flow well under 200 next year.
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 11:07 AM
  #184  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by blackbox348
Any negotiation updates? Are we even negotiating anymore?


This^^ I mean it’s getting ridiculous. (Not the unions fault), but just a half a** email from RW not explaining anything.
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 11:21 AM
  #185  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2
This^^ I mean it’s getting ridiculous. (Not the unions fault), but just a half a** email from RW not explaining anything.
Company’s not going to admit that they don’t have any authority or are just stonewalling. Who knows which is true, but either way, it’s just bs.
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 12:16 PM
  #186  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2
This^^ I mean it’s getting ridiculous. (Not the unions fault), but just a half a** email from RW not explaining anything.
Agree, it's been 2 weeks since the AIP was signed. Hope to hear something soon but not holding my breath. Hopefully some light will be shed after today's PUB event and MEC meetings.

FUPM
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 02:40 PM
  #187  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
From: CA
Exclamation

Originally Posted by Houpilot2001
Agree, it's been 2 weeks since the AIP was signed. Hope to hear something soon but not holding my breath. Hopefully some light will be shed after today's PUB event and MEC meetings.

FUPM
Same.

#FUPM
#MEGA
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 03:10 PM
  #188  
Cujo665's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,578
Likes: 48
From: Semi-Retired...
Default

Originally Posted by highfarfast
Some of your numbers are off. For one, unless the company does something drastically different than it historically does, it will flow well under 200 next year.
You might need to explain that.... just a little...
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 03:25 PM
  #189  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Cujo665
You might need to explain that.... just a little
Sometime next year, approximately January, flow drops to 15 a month for roughly 10 months and then resumes at a rate of ~21/mo after that at current staffing levels. Do the math and best case scenario is less than 200 next year (unless something drastically changes).
Reply
Old 06-25-2019 | 04:28 PM
  #190  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 552
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Tellheritwasntu
Sometime next year, approximately January, flow drops to 15 a month for roughly 10 months and then resumes at a rate of ~21/mo after that at current staffing levels. Do the math and best case scenario is less than 200 next year (unless something drastically changes).
Union will grieve once it hits 15...more waiting!!!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FormerKalitta
Kalitta Companies
132
01-23-2017 03:01 AM
Schwanker
Delta
306
01-14-2016 11:09 AM
gzsg
Delta
10297
07-10-2015 01:42 PM
3662forlife
Regional
79
06-03-2012 07:48 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices