No middle seats sounds made up which makes the rest of it hard to believe.

The only one ever complaining is the Boeing person. So if they're is a Airbus person, then haven't seen them.

Reading not your strong suit?

It's not. Our NC made a detailed email about the two TAs signed our last negotiations session. One of the many agreed upon stipulations are as follows

Ability to upgrade for domestic flights from Economy to Economy Plus for flights three hours to four and a half hours long.

Protective language against middle seat bookings

Domestic deadhead greater than four and a half hours of block within a duty period will be booked in Business Class (First Class).

Every airline that flies them 😂, though to be fair , we as a group Boeing, Airbus, Bombardier,Antonov,love to beech and complain about everything, in good times and bad. The Antonov guys , now that’s a group I’d like to hear from !!! Cheers

Reduced required time we have to deadhead in a company jumpseat.
- Set a minimum standard for all supernumerary seats (business class).
- Hierarchy of international flight bookings (Star / One-World / Sky-Team / Emirates or Etihad, then IASA Category 1 airlines if alliance airlines are unavailable).
- All domestic segments connecting to/from international flights will be in Business Class.
- When international Business Class is unavailable, compensation increased to $1,000 for flights over three hours.
- Intercontinental airline deadhead greater than four hours will be provided a lie-flat seat.
- Domestic deadhead greater than four and a half hours of block within a duty period will be booked in Business Class (First Class).
- Domestic deadhead in excess of 14 hours of duty all in Business Class.
- Ability to upgrade for domestic flights from Economy to Economy Plus for flights three hours to four and a half hours long.
- If non-stop travel is available, it will be booked.
- Crew Lounge passes can be purchased with corporate credit card under certain standards.
- Protective language against middle seat bookings.
- Ground transportation maximum limit of two and a half hours.
- Alternative travel will be approved at the beginning and end of a Trip Pairing as long as the cost is the same or less.
- Company can only use tickets that are available to the general public and that will provide the same benefits.

Don’t confuse complaining with dissemination of first hand accounts and the truth.

A Red Herring thrown to the shareholders to show how reasonable and accommodating management is to those totally argumentative, confrontational, and unreasonably dissatisfied pilot group.

Wait till they don’t follow the TA and the flood of grievances are filed.

I am confused. I was under the assumption that if you TA a section that just gets marked as possibly agreed upon. It would not become active until a contract containing this section is either ratified or shoved down your throat by an arbitrator. Don’t see how they are “not going to follow the TA”.

I thought that too, but on the other thread it was made clear to me that the number one goal of management in a publicly held airline is not shareholder value, fulfilling their fiduciary responsibilities, keeping the Board of Directors happy or even the value of their own stock options.

No, the #1 goal of management is to screw the pilots. And if that means an illegal plot to take the stock to zero then so be it.

Yes, it is very clear now . We pilots are the center of the universe.

There ought to be a CEF that combs pilot message boards and goes short against every investment/business "insight" that they find.