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Quote: Strange thing is the union now says we don’t have a TA in that section. They said we did and now we don’t which means we are back to having exactly nothing of importance TA’d after 6 months of accelerated negotiations.
I strongly prefer that to coming in 6 months early and way under the bar in the name of expediency.
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Quote: That is why I found it odd no one discussed it in the forum. If it’s TA’d this early I would assume we maintained are crew augmentation rules which are much better and far more costly than other airlines. It’s a good thing in a otherwise slow process.
Instant no vote if we change these. FAR 117 is 9 for 3 man and 13 for 4 man. We are still 8/12. Those are widebody jobs. Not a chance it passes if these change. Especially the Capt augmentation.
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Quote: Strange thing is the union now says we don’t have a TA in that section. They said we did and now we don’t which means we are back to having exactly nothing of importance TA’d after 6 months of accelerated negotiations.
And that's our fault or the company's fault for demanding "what are you going to give up for that?" as well as inserting their pet concessions along the way?

The concession stand is closed. Funny thing is, they can't afford to bribe us for scope and QOL concessions they've been trained to want since B-School. Its not like we're getting 30% raises every 3 years. That would put rates at 750/hr in 15 years...for a narrowbody FO.

And they won't even come remotely close to that anyway, even with deep QOL shredding, job killing concessions. WRT the augmentation issue, if its not TA'd then why? Its not like we're demanding every pilot be a captain. So clearly they want concessions over current book. That makes their position un-TA-able.

No deal is better than a bad deal.
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Quote: And that's our fault or the company's fault for demanding "what are you going to give up for that?" as well as inserting their pet concessions along the way?

The concession stand is closed. Funny thing is, they can't afford to bribe us for scope and QOL concessions they've been trained to want since B-School. Its not like we're getting 30% raises every 3 years. That would put rates at 750/hr in 15 years...for a narrowbody FO.

And they won't even come remotely close to that anyway, even with deep QOL shredding, job killing concessions. WRT the augmentation issue, if its not TA'd then why? Its not like we're demanding every pilot be a captain. So clearly they want concessions over current book. That makes their position un-TA-able.

No deal is better than a bad deal.
I think he was making a simple observation.
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Quote: Yup! I'll pay up.
if you're still willing, https://www.pancan.org/honormemorial-gifts/

I'll double match your donation.
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