Then in these situations the smart pilot (at least if a non commuter) will bid reserve and make the reserve guarantee for flying very little. There's always a bright side, no matter the staffing levels.

[QUOTE=ApachePhil;2903160]That is a status quo violation that I'd not advertise.
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No..no status quo violation. Me just waiting another 13 years to pick up another month like that is my status quo. I don’t normally fly extra, I made an exception for that one month. But I don’t fly extra or do GS’s as a normality. Maybe a total of 15 in my 13 years here...and it might be under...

Tell me why I should help the company out again next summer if they are jerking us around?

That may be true but swapping/dropping is not restricted by reserve manning.....which is the point I was getting at.

Denny

Sailing again has some seriously bad data. We are no longer shouldering like we used to (smart move, just cutting corners and pads means summer is now continuing into October), hiring is now needed to be 125 a month in 2019 (hopefully) to catch up, and the overruns were particularly spectacular primarily due to trying to cut corners.

Has a lesson been learned? We will see...

Denny

[QUOTE=p3flteng;2904060]That last part is what violates status quo. You can't tell the company you're never picking up flying because you're in negotiations.

[QUOTE=ChecklistMonkey;2904237]You can’t have any form of a concerted effort such as pilots posting on message boards, flyers, web sites, personal emails, union communications ect...

[QUOTE=ChecklistMonkey;2904237]but not picking up extra flying due to overwork and fatigue, plus an incentive to get the company to hire more pilots I'd say is not a violation of status quo. I have no issue with our greenslip system or white slip pickup stuff. what I do take exception to is using that system to mask serious staffing short falls that seriously lead to burning out the pilot Corp. When all of the reserves are flying at and above ALV for nearly the entire year (NYC 320) You have a staffing issue. When you have to consistently go to chief pilots to get important days off, you have a staffing issue. When you are constantly flying other base 4 and 5 day trips you have a staffing issue. Rant over

Yes. But you can't say it's because the company isn't playing ball especially during negotiations.

You can say: I'm burnt out and my morale and motivation is low.