most useful commentary so far

Just wear the fukin mask...All you're saying is I care and respect you enough that I maybe a carrier and don't want to give it to you or spread it. Dont understand how pity we can be to use jumpseat or other tools to wage unnecessary wars against each other. I think we all have enough problems in our lives not to want more stress. Just wear the ****ing thing out of care and respect for others.

That is way too much of a common sense and selfless post. Are you sure you’re an airline pilot?

Seriously though, well said. Our passenger airline colleagues are wondering if they’re going to have jobs in a few months, while some of us lucky enough to be employed at the two best airlines in the world right now are complaining about wearing a mask. That’s about as clueless as it gets right there.

What a couple of sheep.

Say a P3 is booked EWR-STN or whatever long segment. And also let’s say the P3 JS only has an N95 mask. Does anyone believe it is healthy, comfortable, practical, etc to wear a tight fitting N95 mask for 8+ hours? That is just not realistic.

Bingo!!

I wear my mask but I’m convinced that if I’m exposed it’ll be BECAUSE of the mask. My sister works in an emergency room and deals with wuhan-flu, the non-politically-correct but accurate name of the virus, on a daily basis.
She can’t believe we get to use the same mask over and over again on an entire trip! She calls it ‘stupid and borderline criminal’.

She told me to either disinfect it every single day, ideally several times a day (but then I’m exposing my lungs to the strong chemical irritants in the disinfectant) or to toss it. She said we’re better off not wearing it because each time we take it off and then put it back on our faces we’re spreading the virus from the outside part of the mask to our faces and our fingers, etc, etc.. To use the same mask on an 11-day trip just doesn’t make sense and she’s strongly discouraged me from doing that. She gave me several extra masks but how many guys/gals have access to extra masks?

So yes, using the same mask over and over again is extremely risky ...BUT at least I know I’m making others feel more comfortable, it’s the placebo effect.. :-/

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FYI - Several pilots are being rerouted home right at this moment due to being exposed. (If you are, you’ve probably been notified already..)

Try it instead of speculating.

. Respectfully, good leaders would find a win-win solution for all vs. giving an ultimatum to one. Honestly, I think most guys and gals would give the shirt off their back to a fellow IPA member, don’t think anyone would refuse to wear a mask if asked.

You’ve tried it out? Experimented with it on the flight deck using the different masks? Might want to try before coming to a conclusion.

You’re openly suggesting we defy this policy and then encouraging self censorship??? A little out of character, no? Wouldn’t it be easier on everyone and more professional to just follow the policy?

Honestly, I find this whole mask thing to be much ado about nothing. There’s a lot of battles out there worth getting worked up over. This ain’t one of them.

Respect: A courteous expression (by word or by deed) of esteem or regard; a courteous regard for people’s feelings.

Mutual respect is the framework of the IPA’s unity.

If the JS are full, by all means wear a mask.

But if (for example) there are two jumpers on a MD and the middle JS is open so the Captain says “you don’t have to wear a mask if you don’t want to” since social distancing can be maintained per the FOIB, I’d hope one JS wouldn’t get bent about that if the other JS unmasked.

I’m a hard no on this, but I respect and won’t judge others’ actions otherwise. I’m not going to get a good seal wearing any mask should I actually need O2.

Not sure how you’ve drawn that conclusion from what I’ve *actually* written, especially given the latitude the text of the FOIB *actually* provides.