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Old 05-04-2020, 01:27 PM
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FLIGHTOPERA TIONSINFORMA TIONBULLETIN BULLETINNOF.OIB-0-00-20-007
Date0:5/01/2020
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Old 05-04-2020, 02:14 PM
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I don’t see it in my synced EFK either.

Did get the email a few days ago, though...
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Old 05-04-2020, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dfwdavi8r View Post
3 completely non-convincing quazi-legal BS arguments you mean.

1.) Mask or no mask, if you are sitting next to someone (close contact) who pops positive you will be quarantined. No questions asked. An Ill fitting paper surgical mask will get you nothing in that case. Enjoy your 14 days in the ANC hotel saying “but, but I was wearing a mask”.

2.) Contact tracing = Lawsuit? C’mon man, give me a break. I flew with 4 different crew members last week. Had 7 Jumpseat riders. l slept in 3 sleep rooms. Used 4 different toilets in the ASC. Maybe 8-10 crew vans. 4 hotel rooms. In your example. Where did I contract the Wu-Flu? Probably 14 days prior to that from my Amazon delivery driver or the other 15 gazillion other possibilities. Lawsuits require proof. How are they going to prove where they got it? There is no way to prove anything associated with a virus unless you are locked on a cruise ship or aircraft carrier for weeks at a time. Not convincing or legal. Try again Bubba.

3.) Don’t even see a 3rd argument, legal or otherwise.

I’ll wear the stupid mask at work just to avoid the NURP harassment. I’ll also know it doesn’t make a bit of difference on the spread one way or another. It didn’t make a difference when I returned from PVG in March (No Mask) It didn’t make a difference when I had a someone on my J/S who was coming back from SIK in April (Still coughing but who had to return to work because they were on probation).

Just a question? When do we stop wearing the mask? There is no end game here. Just continued fear mongering. It wasn’t required in Jan but I bet it will still be required next Jan. Nothing was different then, now or will be different.

Rest assured, I’ll be providing relief on my J/S because it is BS and I still get to make that call.
I think you’re confusing me with the Greta Thunberg of Masks. Just trying to look at this thing from a different angle, didn’t mean to elevate your blood pressure over there pops.
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Old 05-04-2020, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Section Eight View Post
Not wanting a trip to ATL for posting some work piece of paper, we have a new directive starting 5/8 that’s says JS must wear masks, outside the aircraft we must wear masks, and the operating crew is at their discretion. This is a very good start!

after flying all day with some completely self absorbed people . I’d like to add this.

it’s not about you. Get over it and Wear the masks.

dont care if you thinks it’s a hoax, don’t care if you think it’s a ploy to get Biden into the White House. Don’t care.real people (some younger than most of us) are dying, and it’s starting to spread though our ranks. Wonder why...?

I listened all day long to “I’m not worrying about getting it”. Well numb nuts...the problem is..you may get it and give it to maybe 2-4 people before you figure out you have it. And those people may not fair so well.

so...get over the stigma, get over your self absorbed ego and start acting like the professional they pay you to be. And while you’re at it, think about this. YOU may do just fine...but what if you give it to someone that takes it home to their immunosuppressive family member, mom, dad, daughter. Son..

unfortunately for cases like this, there is no cure for the complete narcissistic state some of our fellow pilots live in. It’s all about ME....

rant over, carry on

section eight is right on this.
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Old 05-04-2020, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
I don't see any 'wink-wink' treatment here, nor do I share your concerns about risks or individual liability.

And that's okay.

We sit every other seat on crew busses and limit crew vans to four crewmembers now because the powers that be say that maintains social distance; how would that be acceptable but the far left and far right jumpseats on the MD (or Airbus) aren't?

I don't think we're as far apart on this topic as it seems...it really isn't as complicated as its being made out to be.
I think we differ on the social distancing definition which led to my misinterpretation of your stance. Sorry for the insinuation.
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Old 05-08-2020, 10:16 AM
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UPS is thrilled with the IPA on IPA on this topic. I'm so cynical at times, almost convinced UPS did this simply to create even more tension in the IPA. Perfect tool. It is working.
Will not allow UPS to win this opportunity. Regardless of my personal opinions on efficacy of the facial coverings, I will not change one mind.
Therefore, in the work environment, Will comply and not argue. What can I impact? In short term I can help destroy the strength of the IPA bond long term. Not playing.
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Old 05-08-2020, 10:25 AM
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As of about 10am Looeyville time today, this FOIB was not on my sync’d EFK.
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Old 05-09-2020, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
As of about 10am Looeyville time today, this FOIB was not on my sync’d EFK.
Yeah, if it’s a thing, it wasn’t happening yesterday.
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Old 05-09-2020, 11:00 AM
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The email and communication is in the SDF ABG under "Coronavirus Gateway Specifics" Effective May 11.
SDF crew vans and SDF hotel shuttles-mandatory
Public areas including SDF hotels -mandatory
ASC, including outside for vans - mandatory
Optional- anywhere performing crew functions at aircraft, including exterior walkaround and interior preflight

Applies only to SDF. Not system wide,
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Old 05-13-2020, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
As of about 10am Looeyville time today, this FOIB was not on my sync’d EFK.

Its on the EFK now....
FLIGHT OPERATIONS INFORMATION BULLETIN
BULLETIN NO. FOIB-0-00-20-007
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