It's starting to look more likely that the Rubella component of the MMR vaccine has a very high correlation to low severity in COVID cases. The other components may help as well. This hypothesis, made by two individuals, has been discussed here before but now has preliminary verification by heavy-hitter research organizations.

Hasn't hit big mainstream media yet, but these sources appear reputable:

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...anization.html

https://kdwn.com/2020/04/24/mmr-vacc...-for-covid-19/

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....10.20053207v1

And in 2014 researchers concluded that the measles vaccine protected against SARS (aka COVID-01).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...42682214000051


Verification of this, and ramping up production can be accomplished more quickly than certifying a new vaccine... and much of the population is already vaccinated anyway.

If this pans out, it will become the definitive case study of "Better to be Lucky than Good".

Somewhat related article. “Herd immunity” could be achieved at much lower percentages than previously thought. Maybe the MMR vaccine could have something to do with that.

http://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short....27.20081893v1

Interesting theories.. would give some credence as to the New York numbers being so disproportionately high in terms of serious disease rates and poor outcomes. New Yorks vaccine program has had difficulty vaccinating certain groups

Anecdotally, my airline had some cases of measles floating around between crew, so i got a titer and was woefully low on antibodies. Got the booster.... measles is nasty.. German measles.. nasty.. mumps.. eww..

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24606680/

just talked to a colleague about this. There is a European company already working on this.. they might beat everyone to the punch.. fingers crossed..

Would explain the very sharp contrast between NYC and HK.... only 7 deaths in HK??? And it's not because they're falling all over temselves to comply with every directive of the CCP.

need more meta data analysis, but something to look at.

With the remdisovir shortage and any other antiviral that will prove to effective. It's going to have to be some sort of vaccination to get the real start to global recovery.

Unfortunately as mobility increases, cases go up, local hotspot... etc...

Did you see the MLB study??.. I'll see if i can find the actual data link when I get a break.

Ummm no. Incorrect.

The Rt rates are actually < 1 in all but 4 states: KS, ME, NE, MN. I remember 1.5 months ago when you guys where screaming about it, because of what you'd heard from CNN. Speaking of CNN et al. funny how they fail to mention this fact. Hmmmmm. wonder why.

Here's the source:
https://rt.live/

It's regularly updated.

We need to be opened up yesterday. Not contingent upon a vaccine. Enough, this is a flu bug. Nothing more.

I'm sorry, I don't know what your trying to conclude from the data. Yes Instagram made a nice way displaying R naught data, although not sure how they are calculating and what Rt actually is. Yes everything looks great and in the green I see. Great. But what is the interpretation of the data?

I also don't watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. Infact I haven't watched TV since probably February. As I'm way too busy.

Please don't assume I'm an alarmist or a political person. I work for a global company going through the actual data concerning this particular virion everyday. I wish this was as simple as 8 simple segments of ribonucleic acid made up 14k nucleotides, forming an influenza A virus, but it is far from that. I try to stick to facts as I learn them from my work and my colleagues. I've visited plenty of clinical sites recently and spent plenty of time in a laboratory recently to not jump on every single news story and to try and give factual data.

There will be further transmission and infection hot spots with mobility. There is no way around that without some sort of immunity, acquired or vaccinated. There will be hospitalizations and further deaths. The degree to of which is unknown and really can't be predicted accurately. May be more, but may be less. This is a communal disease.

I can't comment on economic impact of societal decisions or the moral and political implications on any of that. I can't tell you how likely the average business will resume business travel, sales force travel, leisure travel etc.

This has pretty much killed my "retirement" airline career plans. The last thing I want is for this to continue or to worsen. Not only for myself. But my fellow pilots. But, there is also a reality here that has to be accepted.

Or we could go back to discussing what the thread is about....

MOD INPUT: Yes, lets please stick to the topic.