UAL to remove seats from RJs

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Quote: Wrong. They will have your back. It makes it easier for them to grab your wallet.
....or to do something even more unpleasant while they’re back there.


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Quote: Wrong. They will have your back. It makes it easier for them to grab your wallet.
I stand correct. It also makes it easier to do something else to your “backside.”
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Quote: brilliant. enjoy your time off. We'll hold down the fort
classless.....even for you.
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Quote: Your asking to a pilot to make a business minded decision? On a forum? These guys are truckers. They would die by the contract.
“Business minded?” Like not letting the hired guns who run this company shove it up our **** again? Stick around this business for a while and watch the magic happen.
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Quote: The best way to keep the jets able to only hold 70 people is to remove 6 seats in all of them. What am I missing here?
Yes ... The best/only way. It will cost them to remove the seats but not that much. If BK judge wipes out scope it will cost them again to reinstall the seats.

Its been 15 or 20 years ago ... I remember flying on an American or maybe Delta 50 seat RJ into DFW that only had 42 seats installed with a really nice seat pitch and had a large bin mounted forward for carry on bags. Not a bad experience for the 42 passengers except the seat cushions were only good for an hour on the 2+30 flight.
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Quote: 1.5 rows fwiw
DOH! You're correct.
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Quote: If he is in fact management, as has been suggested by one of the posters, that is his job.

Our job is to defend the contract that we have and improve it when possible.

They got us in 2003 then again later and we still are short of what we had.

Dont be fooled again.
Huggy is NOT a management pilot. He's a SFO based FO. A line pilot like the rest of us.
I know exactly who he is and even double checked this before posting.
He doesn't have evil intentions with his suggestions.

He's just trying to come up with money saving solutions. This one is no Bueno though; it doesn't save much money and is ripe for abuse.

I want to see the seats pulled. It's not a difficult or expensive process to pull seats and reconfigure the fleet.
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Quote: Huggy is NOT a management pilot. He's a SFO based FO. A line pilot like the rest of us.
I know exactly who he is and even double checked this before posting.
He doesn't have evil intentions with his suggestions.

He's just trying to come up with money saving solutions. This one is no Bueno though; it doesn't save much money and is ripe for abuse.

I want to see the seats pulled. It's not a difficult or expensive process to pull seats and reconfigure the fleet.
No ... he is not a management pilot. We PMed a few days ago. I think we worked it out.

Agree ... Pull the seats.
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Quote: No ... he is not a management pilot. We PMed a few days ago. I think we worked it out.

Agree ... Pull the seats.
Cool beans. I've never met him, but I know who he is and just wanted to make sure that no one thinks he's making suggestions because he's management. He's just another line pilot, like the rest of us.
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Pull the seats. The high cost is not the physical removal, but the increase in CASM. In other words, making an inefficient airplane even more inefficient.

Remember the company is and has been unwilling to share the true margins of the RJ’s. If they were so great, I think you’d see the LCC’s or startups flying a bunch of 175/190’s around in house. No Legacies flying them on “thin” routes.
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