UAL to remove seats from RJs
05-26-2020, 02:22 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by RJDio
Pull the seats. The high cost is not the physical removal, but the increase in CASM. In other words, making an inefficient airplane even more inefficient.
Remember the company is and has been unwilling to share the true margins of the RJ’s. If they were so great, I think you’d see the LCC’s or startups flying a bunch of 175/190’s around in house. No Legacies flying them on “thin” routes.
Remember the company is and has been unwilling to share the true margins of the RJ’s. If they were so great, I think you’d see the LCC’s or startups flying a bunch of 175/190’s around in house. No Legacies flying them on “thin” routes.
05-26-2020, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
Hate to tell you but the 175 is not an inefficient airplane.
vs
737-700/319- 128 pax, 5000 lbs an hour, cruising at .80-.77, with the ability to carry freight.
It’s no CRJ200 but don’t tell me it’s not inefficient.
05-26-2020, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
Hate to tell you but the 175 is not an inefficient airplane.
05-26-2020, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sixty N Two
and while I’m glad the contract is enforced, I doubt the 6 seats are going to be an issue for some time. By the time demand is filling all 70 seats left on the plane we’ll probably be on the way to returning furloughed pilots.
05-26-2020, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
It should be an interesting couple of years. It sounds like they could use this to clean up the fleet. Unless demand comes back pretty quick, the 757’s will probably not come back and be replaced with the max, the 767 will probably be phased out as demand recovers with the 787, and I don't even want to guess what happens to the bus. They could even decide that this is a good time to start phasing out the 777’s and actually take delivery of the 350. On the regional side, their message about the 50 seaters sounds fairly consistent, they are going to take a big hit. Reduced frequency on bigger planes may be what the big 3 move towards on the back side of this.
For that reason, I could see RJs including the 50 seater being around for quite a while longer.
05-26-2020, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
all RJs are inefficient from a CASM standpoint. The only thing that makes them efficient is crew cost.
it is all about matching the equipment for the mission.
05-26-2020, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
It should be an interesting couple of years. It sounds like they could use this to clean up the fleet. Unless demand comes back pretty quick, the 757’s will probably not come back and be replaced with the max, the 767 will probably be phased out as demand recovers with the 787, and I don't even want to guess what happens to the bus. They could even decide that this is a good time to start phasing out the 777’s and actually take delivery of the 350. On the regional side, their message about the 50 seaters sounds fairly consistent, they are going to take a big hit. Reduced frequency on bigger planes may be what the big 3 move towards on the back side of this.
05-26-2020, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL97
Pulling 17 757's out of storage as we speak to help cover increasing loads per the EWR townhall today.
05-26-2020, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
I'm gonna assume that it also has something to do with putting a better F product on the transcons. UA has a ton of 737-900ERs with nearly identical capacity and lower operating costs that don't have lay-flat up front.
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