UAL to remove seats from RJs
05-22-2020, 06:04 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by PilotGR
Your asking to a pilot to make a business minded decision? On a forum? These guys are truckers. They would die by the contract.
05-23-2020, 02:03 PM
#45
777 - ret
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Position: Waco CG-4 center seat
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
The best way to keep the jets able to only hold 70 people is to remove 6 seats in all of them. What am I missing here?
Its been 15 or 20 years ago ... I remember flying on an American or maybe Delta 50 seat RJ into DFW that only had 42 seats installed with a really nice seat pitch and had a large bin mounted forward for carry on bags. Not a bad experience for the 42 passengers except the seat cushions were only good for an hour on the 2+30 flight.
05-26-2020, 05:33 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by Huell
If he is in fact management, as has been suggested by one of the posters, that is his job.
Our job is to defend the contract that we have and improve it when possible.
They got us in 2003 then again later and we still are short of what we had.
Dont be fooled again.
Our job is to defend the contract that we have and improve it when possible.
They got us in 2003 then again later and we still are short of what we had.
Dont be fooled again.
I know exactly who he is and even double checked this before posting.
He doesn't have evil intentions with his suggestions.
He's just trying to come up with money saving solutions. This one is no Bueno though; it doesn't save much money and is ripe for abuse.
I want to see the seats pulled. It's not a difficult or expensive process to pull seats and reconfigure the fleet.
05-26-2020, 12:23 PM
#48
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: Waco CG-4 center seat
Posts: 863
Originally Posted by Andy
Huggy is NOT a management pilot. He's a SFO based FO. A line pilot like the rest of us.
I know exactly who he is and even double checked this before posting.
He doesn't have evil intentions with his suggestions.
He's just trying to come up with money saving solutions. This one is no Bueno though; it doesn't save much money and is ripe for abuse.
I want to see the seats pulled. It's not a difficult or expensive process to pull seats and reconfigure the fleet.
I know exactly who he is and even double checked this before posting.
He doesn't have evil intentions with his suggestions.
He's just trying to come up with money saving solutions. This one is no Bueno though; it doesn't save much money and is ripe for abuse.
I want to see the seats pulled. It's not a difficult or expensive process to pull seats and reconfigure the fleet.
Agree ... Pull the seats.
05-26-2020, 12:35 PM
#49
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
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Originally Posted by Huell
No ... he is not a management pilot. We PMed a few days ago. I think we worked it out.
Agree ... Pull the seats.
Agree ... Pull the seats.
05-26-2020, 01:38 PM
#50
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Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 648
Pull the seats. The high cost is not the physical removal, but the increase in CASM. In other words, making an inefficient airplane even more inefficient.
Remember the company is and has been unwilling to share the true margins of the RJ’s. If they were so great, I think you’d see the LCC’s or startups flying a bunch of 175/190’s around in house. No Legacies flying them on “thin” routes.
Remember the company is and has been unwilling to share the true margins of the RJ’s. If they were so great, I think you’d see the LCC’s or startups flying a bunch of 175/190’s around in house. No Legacies flying them on “thin” routes.
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