Yeah, let me know how that works out in the Hasidic Jewish communities in NYC. The recent measles outbreaks have been traced to low vaccination rates in Hasidic communities.

https://www.jta.org/2019/06/07/unite...cination-rates

Not to mention those giant bonfires they’ve built with their masks in NYC. I’m guessing our TEL flights are/ will be empty with the mask policy in place.

It's not in the same family of viruses at all, flu is influenza, covid-19 is a coronavirus, the two are nothing alike outside of the respiratory symptoms. Most of the vaccines they are working on aren't your typical vaccines either, they are using mRNA to get your cells to create their own antibodies (rather than injecting you with weakened or dead virus like most typical vaccines.). So, I wouldn't assume that you can't get it. However, if you truly can't get and UA's doctor agrees, I doubt there'd be any issue for you. Now there will be some antivaxxers that don't want to get it and make themselves a homemade certificate against government invention and that's a different story entirely...

My airline said they won't force us to take a vaccine. Can airlines can force you take a vaccine? What happened to my body, my choice?

The problem is it can affect other's health because not everybody can get the vaccine and there's precedent for vaccines being forced for public health. Many countries require proof of immunization, schools can require it, etc. This vaccine at best is probably only going to be 70% effective, which means to actually gain herd immunity, we still need just about everybody to get it to protect those who can't take it or it's not effective within. On top of that we will have to use masks potentially for awhile still to really eradicate it - making it incidental and reducing r0 substantially when it can't jump because of all the vaccinated population will eventually make it not a thing except in developing nations.


https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org...idemic/2006-04

I’ve worked at an airline that required international vaccine’s due to the areas we were flying. We carried our yellow vaccine cards with us while on duty.

You can choose to not be employed there. See how that works? It’s kinda like “freedom of speech.” Plenty of people think that gives them license to say whatever they choose. Your employer is not the government.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with this.

Good luck to us all. I really don't think you're going to convince all 330 million in this country to inject themselves with the most rushed vaccine in the history of mankind for a virus that kills < 0.8%.

I would agree with that statement. What I disagreed with was what you said about your EMPLOYER. That’s why I COMPARED it to freedom of speech. For me personally, I don’t plan to get the vaccine....and the government can’t make me. However, my employer can make it a condition to work there....and so can a lot of businesses. That will change things.

Kills? Yes, that is one bad outcome. But it's looking like, the more we learn about the virus, the more we are seeing other long term lingering health issues that seem to be caused by the virus. This is also a consideration.