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Quote: Id rather be gainfully employed as a regional captain than a couple years into a major hoping to get on right seat flying a king air or a citation mustang for John Does Chevy dealer or back to flying around air China students all day for less than half my previous salary. That’s just me.
I did CFI. Liked that work. I've done plane sales. Hated that. I've done Corporate. You do everything (better now days I'm sure but still cater, bag boy, lav cleaner, flight planner). I've done corporate where they want you to stay an extra day or change destinations on the fly. I've done 135 with endless waiting in the FBO for the client to return for the flight back. I've done 135 cargo. Night in ice in a seneca or 421. I've done the non flying IT gig - for years. By far and away the airline flying is the best. Left seat even better. I'd stay even if downgraded. Even reserve commuting is better than the IT job slog and the on call and problems following you around. Fly your trip. Be done. That's it. Have fun, have some fun with your crew, get some sleep, go home. It's a great gig. Even at a **** hole regional.
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Quote: I'm guessing we're going to release them all. CJO's are only good with us for 6 months because of background check and pria stuff, so my guess is they can't keep them in the pool anymore. That, and we won't need pilots for a good while
I emailed Pilot Selection recently asking if my CJO would remain valid, or if I'd have to re-interview when the time comes. They said "We intend to honor all CJO's" Hopefully, this remains true.
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Quote: I emailed Pilot Selection recently asking if my CJO would remain valid, or if I'd have to re-interview when the time comes. They said "We intend to honor all CJO's" Hopefully, this remains true.
I hope that stays true. However there comes a point where life can change in terms of a candidate. A DUI, other determining factors etc that determine the livelihood of a pilot. A lot can happen in a year. Hopefully they let people back with handshake interviews for those that keep their nose clean.

But if background checks start to... age. I understand they can’t keep y’all in the pool forever.
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Quote: I did CFI. Liked that work. I've done plane sales. Hated that. I've done Corporate. You do everything (better now days I'm sure but still cater, bag boy, lav cleaner, flight planner). I've done corporate where they want you to stay an extra day or change destinations on the fly. I've done 135 with endless waiting in the FBO for the client to return for the flight back. I've done 135 cargo. Night in ice in a seneca or 421. I've done the non flying IT gig - for years. By far and away the airline flying is the best. Left seat even better. I'd stay even if downgraded. Even reserve commuting is better than the IT job slog and the on call and problems following you around. Fly your trip. Be done. That's it. Have fun, have some fun with your crew, get some sleep, go home. It's a great gig. Even at a **** hole regional.
Exactly my mentality.... As a commercial pilot working on CFI/Multi etc etc I've heard from so many people talking about the freedom and adventure of Charter flying and honestly if I want freedom and adventure I'm getting a Kitfox or a Cub and I'm gonna go play around on a grass strip on the weekends... Glad to hear the mentality from somebody else
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Heard from some good sources that they intend to hire again in Q1, they have more flying in ATL an DTW than pre covid apparently. But it will be interesting when they stop the seat blocking
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Quote: Heard from some good sources that they intend to hire again in Q1, they have more flying in ATL an DTW than pre covid apparently. But it will be interesting when they stop the seat blocking
Well I think I saw that we’re about 75%-80% of our pre COVID levels for Endeavor. DTW and ATL have more departures because a lot of flying was shifted away from our NYC domiciles. It’ll be interesting to see how this will shake out. It could go either way at this point with COVID infections skyrocketing.
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Quote: Heard from some good sources that they intend to hire again in Q1, they have more flying in ATL an DTW than pre covid apparently. But it will be interesting when they stop the seat blocking
Why would they hire when they plan to start retiring a large portion of our fleet next year with no replacement? We are over staffed right now as it is.
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Quote: Why would they hire when they plan to start retiring a large portion of our fleet next year with no replacement? We are over staffed right now as it is.

this 100%

we are not hiring for a long time. There is no movement to majors and unless we are seeing a mass exodus to FedEx UPS and ACMIs, our retirements make up a small portion of any movement.

there is downgrades in the future still ahead of us when we park the deuce

does anyone really believe we are gonna start hiring a MONTH AND A HALF from now?
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Quote: this 100%

we are not hiring for a long time. There is no movement to majors and unless we are seeing a mass exodus to FedEx UPS and ACMIs, our retirements make up a small portion of any movement.

there is downgrades in the future still ahead of us when we park the deuce

does anyone really believe we are gonna start hiring a MONTH AND A HALF from now?
Only 11 mandatory retirements next year, minimal outside attrition and losing 42 aircraft. There is zero reason for them to hire. Furloughs next summer/fall are far more likely.
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Quote: Only 11 mandatory retirements next year, minimal outside attrition and losing 42 aircraft. There is zero reason for them to hire. Furloughs next summer/fall are far more likely.

I understand what your saying I’m just going off what I was told by someone in the office. FA are being hired at 30 a month for at least 4-6 months and pilots hiring will resume in 2021 for sure just not sure if a date yet do something must be in the pipeline. I would imagine they would replace the 200s with 900s unless they delay the retirement of them.


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