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#31
I understand what your saying I’m just going off what I was told by someone in the office. FA are being hired at 30 a month for at least 4-6 months and pilots hiring will resume in 2021 for sure just not sure if a date yet do something must be in the pipeline. I would imagine they would replace the 200s with 900s unless they delay the retirement of them.
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There is a massive difference between our pilots and flight attendants. Their attrition rate compared to ours is astronomical. You’re considered “senior” here if you make it to 6 months on property as FA. It may have gotten a little better because they have changed their hiring practices especially New York but our flight attendant still quit left and right. We legit have people quitting on OE.
C tower rumors aren’t as legit as you may think. In the last 2 years we were supposed to be flying out of SLC, LAX base, 175s etc etc etc. All rumors from “legit sources in the c tower”. I was told straight faced we were gonna be doing St Thomas and Mexico turns by someone on the negotiating committee.
You need to take a look at the state of the industry and tell me if you think we are gonna be hiring any time soon. American is probably gonna go bankrupt again. Our belt has been tightened, think of 2021 as 2002/2003 in terms of the airline industry.
We aren’t growing our fleet any time soon. Delta made it clear they’re coming out of this a smaller company. Cut capacity is what they’re gonna doe and not throw all their flying back to RJs like after 9/11.
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#32
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I think the doom and gloom is behind us. 70% of the U.S. population is estimated to be vaccinated for covid by May. Airline stock prices are way up from their bottom signaling improved future airline travel demand. Already, pent up travel demand is showing up with TSA numbers at at their highest levels since this pandemic began, in spite of record high numbers of new covid cases.
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I think the doom and gloom is behind us. 70% of the U.S. population is estimated to be vaccinated for covid by May. Airline stock prices are way up from their bottom signaling improved future airline travel demand. Already, pent up travel demand is showing up with TSA numbers at at their highest levels since this pandemic began, in spite of record high numbers of new covid cases.
#34
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I understand what your saying I’m just going off what I was told by someone in the office. FA are being hired at 30 a month for at least 4-6 months and pilots hiring will resume in 2021 for sure just not sure if a date yet do something must be in the pipeline. I would imagine they would replace the 200s with 900s unless they delay the retirement of them.
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#35
Republic, I guess is refocusing on the N.E., not only for DAL, but UAL as well. So that brings in to question, wether we will regain NYC flying at all. This also supported by the fact that we don’t operate the E-jet, and DAL wants that fleet type in the N.E.
I don’t mean to be such a Debbie Downer, but our future is in serious question with the 200 phase out and with the CRJ in general being a dying fleet type.
Every Town-hall we have I’m awaiting the light at the end of the tunnel.
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The 200 phase out is supposed to take place starting end of summer 21. On the Chairman’s podcast, he indicated that this might get pushed due to increased travel numbers but we’ll see. I’m hearing we’re (union) 150-200 pilots over staffed right now. This is based on average utilization rate of 7 hrs block per airframe daily, pre-covid I guess was around 10. When we’re done pulling the 200 (I believe we have 42 in service and 36 on the schedule) out, without a replacement aircraft we could be 400-600 pilots over-staffed.
Republic, I guess is refocusing on the N.E., not only for DAL, but UAL as well. So that brings in to question, wether we will regain NYC flying at all. This also supported by the fact that we don’t operate the E-jet, and DAL wants that fleet type in the N.E.
I don’t mean to be such a Debbie Downer, but our future is in serious question with the 200 phase out and with the CRJ in general being a dying fleet type.
Every Town-hall we have I’m awaiting the light at the end of the tunnel.
Republic, I guess is refocusing on the N.E., not only for DAL, but UAL as well. So that brings in to question, wether we will regain NYC flying at all. This also supported by the fact that we don’t operate the E-jet, and DAL wants that fleet type in the N.E.
I don’t mean to be such a Debbie Downer, but our future is in serious question with the 200 phase out and with the CRJ in general being a dying fleet type.
Every Town-hall we have I’m awaiting the light at the end of the tunnel.
To be fair seems a lot of carriers are leaning to the E-Jet as the regional jet of the future.
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#38
In that we agree, our biggest obstacle is that DAL would have to invest 55-60 million to bring this onto property. And since they have two carriers that already do, what is their incentive. In this, I’m kind of envious of OO, they have a lot more control of their future than we do. They’ve shown they have no issue financing fleet types and airframes for contracts. Something that requires little upfront costs to their customers.
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In that we agree, our biggest obstacle is that DAL would have to invest 55-60 million to bring this onto property. And since they have two carriers that already do, what is their incentive. In this, I’m kind of envious of OO, they have a lot more control of their future than we do. They’ve shown they have no issue financing fleet types and airframes for contracts. Something that requires little upfront costs to their customers.
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60 million is only about 1% of Delta's 2019 profit. If they wanted us to have them, we would have had them. There are too many things out of our control to worry about right now. Make sure you're flying SOP and don't get burners by something stupid. The company is a lot more trigger happy about firing people.
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