The ATM test is free. I think when L3 was delivering the CTP for SkyWest it wasn’t. With ATP Jets it is included in the course.

Just saw a guy post on youtube recently his ground course was online and then he flew to dallas for sims. I think he was one of the AA WO cadets or something.

So just to confirm ground school ctp for skywest is definitely in person starting on Mondays at ATP jets in Dalls and lasts 8 days and includes the sheppard air and written exam ?

Haha I just saw that video too. Made me wonder who he's flying for since he's on a crj. But I have the same question. I, too, want to confirm it's all in person and the written is free. I'm wondering if it really begins on monday though because my ctp date is a Tuesday.

I just got back from Dallas after completing the ATP/CTP course.

Yes, it is all done in person now - classroom and sims. The entire class was SkyWest CRJ (45 students) and they will roll into their Indoc on Sep 7th. I'm a few months out from indoc still, long story...but it was good to meet a lot of new folks for networking purposes...

The written is included, a voucher number was given to us when we did the written scheduling on the PSI website during day 3. The written is given starting at 0900 on Monday morning and was already covered in the previous post. Most finish the test in about 90 minutes even though you are allotted 4 hours. I showed up early and got in earlier than my 1030 scheduled start time. They roll people in and out as computers become available. I think most were done by 1300, but I was already at DFW by then so can't verify when the last person got done...

Sim sessions were combined into 4 hour blocks plus one additional two hour block. Session 1/2 and 4/5 are combined with a 1 hour briefing before and 30 minute debrief after. Session 3 is a 2 hour block with 60 minute pre brief and 30 minute post brief. My times ended up being 0945-1530 on Friday, 1830-2400 on Saturday, and 1300-1700 on Sunday (had to wait 2 hours between the in brief and my sim session). I was in the A320 for Sims 1,2,4,and 5 and the ERJ-145 for sim 3. Just luck of the draw on what you get assigned to and they don't take requests on specific airframes, just to many folks to get through to make things complicated like that. Sims run 24/7 and ATP Jets is not the only one using them. The A320's are actually run by Avenger Flight Group for Spirit. At least the ones I was in were.

The above worked awesome and was on time! You can still bring your own food if desired as there are multiple refrigerators in the break room, but with a lot of students and instructors, space can be tight. This wasn't explained well on Day 1 and we were scrambling to get registered and orders in while class was going on to make sure we met the deadline for ordering.

ATP just went back to doing the classroom part of the CTP class in person the beginning of August. They had been been doing the four classroom days via Zoom for over a year.

Hi,

I'm going to say this may be a stupid question but I still want to ask it. When we go to Dallas to do the ATP-CTP training, will we be paid for that? Is it considered working? Or are we
just fortunate that they are paying for the ATP-CTP training?

Thanks!

It's paid retroactively with your first paycheck which will be the 7th or 22nd of the month depending on when your indoc starts

Bring a sweater! It’s freezing in the classroom.

One way to keep you awake. . .🤣

Is there any virtual part after ctp? Do you have any information?