A "major airline" is defined as having $1 billion+ annual revenue. I'm not sure Breeze meets this definition.

That's cool that you guys are "building an airline" and have lots of company pride but you guys also seem prone to hyperbole and step jumping. This is a startup with lots of inherent risk. Don't pretend you're some kind of legacy because that's what's in the kool aid.

Go to the last pages on the JB forum in 2005. They sound exactly like Breeze does right now. This place isn’t terrible right now.

The company hasn’t even been flying pax for a year. By those standards Republic and Skywest are major airlines. Had I listened to one person in 2010-2012 that told me Bitcoin would pay off, I wouldn’t be here talking to this thread right now. I remember every single pilot doubted JetBlue and said they wouldn’t be around for a single year when they started flying.

This whole industry is a risk. We could all be on the street in 6 months if the Ukraine/Russia/NATO/US war keeps heating up.

JetBlue was a completely different animal…And as a result, they are where they are today. Times are different than 2000, Neelman is different than 2000. Definitely an eyes-wide-open kinda job. The building-an-airline thing could reward the “originals” but very few beyond that. Being in on the ground floor is exciting for sure. Prob just try to keep calling it what it is…

Well... I really wasn't looking for a debate because this topic isn't debatable. Yes, SkyWest and Republic are "major airlines" by the DOT definition. Actually many of the regionals are. Breeze is not by any definition. If they manage to stay in business, they may be one in a few years.

Also the industry is a lot different now than it was 23 years ago when Jet Blue was founded. I'd say the industry is a lot more hostile toward startups and there's a lot more competition at the bottom of the industry than at the top. Everyone considering going there needs to have a clear understanding of this, not just recruiters look aid with "Get In On The Ground Floor Of The Next JetBlue". And since you brought it up a lot more have lost their asses on Bitcoin than have become millionaires. I wish you luck.

Yea I understand everything you’re saying. I’m not saying Breeze will even make it. Not saying they will or won’t. Only time will tell. But the trend here is for more people than not to come in and try telling everyone it won’t work and to bail. Every pilot here knows the risks involved. Only time will tell. Aren’t you at NK?

Thank you those that paticipated in the spirit of the original post, a lot of good information. I appreciate it.

top 5% of which major?

Breezy bois will be a major, eventually.

Wow I didn’t know Skywest was a major! I’m getting apps in now thanks. But they fly 50 seat planes though can that be a major? I thought that was a regional?