The difference is that regionals are on the verge of shutting down due to lack of pilots (especially captains) and the legacies all have large pools and are having no problem filling classes. So the airlines are throwing money at the problem at the regionals and the legacy pilots don't have nearly the leverage they think they do especially as the recession sets in. The legacy pilots are overplaying their hand in my opinion. They are comparing apples to oranges. The legacy pilots should be able to achieve inflation +1% but the 400% raises some regional pilots have seen ain't gonna happen and it will be a hard sell to get retro pay for the time the airlines were on government life support. If that's the goal, they will just get themselves parked until next year at the bottom of the recession when they get concessions rammed down their throats.

No one is ramming any concessions into any orifices unless you’re insinuating bankruptcies. A TA would be voted on.

I dunno. Based on what the boys with hats are saying it looks like their management just dropped a deuce in the punchbowl.

No one has seen specifics, but by the union letter it seems that way. It’ll get flushed though, not swallowed. The strike vote opened today.

Wait and see if it passes or not. That doesn't appear to be a foregone conclusion.

Just reviewed the RLA flowchart, again, and there’s nothing in there preventing the process from running exactly like I describe, other than past precedent of pilots allowing it to run this way by being endlessly patient. The NMB has no authority to ice us forever as you claim.

But well done supporting your company during a period where we have more leverage than anytime in the past 20+ years.

And I wasn’t trying to be tough as much as effective, but I am ready to go on strike today if that’s what you mean.

This, it’s all about leverage! The regionals had a lot because they were vastly underpaid to being with and had pilots leaving in droves for other regionals and ULCC’s. Legacies don’t have the same issues nor do pilots have the same leverage (still filling classes with plenty of apps on file). I hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t see massive pay increases coming like some on here do.

I thought I’d try to speed up the process of getting compensated fairly, but if you’d rather insist on the slower process, your call.

Most folks work AT LEAST 12 days a month, but if a company providing only 4 days to per month to help you get paid fairly-while telling you how much they appreciate your effort-seems fair to you, I guess you’re a better man than I.

Why would they make the majors anymore attractive with higher wages? They want people to stay at their regionals, not have more reasons to bail for the Legacies. Remember the pay pie! The regionals took your pay increase, along with all the elderly FAs. Very soon pay on equipment will be the same at every US commercial carrier. You want more pay, join an airline with big equipment.

If the “pay pie” was capped at a certain size, inflation would eventually push all but the highest earners into poverty. The thing about the pie is, it can be rebaked larger. Its due to be remade, and I like my pie with ice cream.