Yep. And they aren’t the clapped out engine failure A-models that UAL has a ton of.

That said, I’ll believe all the aforementioned when I see it from this incompetent mgmt regime.

If you’ve only been here 13 months I don’t think you will be holding a line on LGA/777 in a year, most jr lineholder now is 103XX. Maybe a lineholder in 3 years. WB goes so senior here at AA bc we don’t have anymore G3 aircraft.

Can’t comment on the lifestyle at AA, but I retired 5 years ago off the C-17 and UAL has been the easiest job I could ever imagine. I commute and work as little as possible. Our reserve rules suck, but if you are local, they really don’t matter. New hires have been getting CLE recently, so while there’s no guarantee that they will in the future, it’s not the seniority fortress it once was.

Yeah he’s not gonna hold 777 FO at all, much less a line.

I'd stay at AA but that's just me. UAL is a better run airline right now. They haven't always been and you never know what the future holds. It's not always been great over there but it seems like they have turned a corner. Time will tell. But if you're not going to be happy at AA then bail.

Everything that you claim about AA that sucks or needs to be improved on are valid to a point but you're looking at a snapshot in time. AA management will change. Culture will change will a new generation of pilots. No one as a clue what AAs fleet will look like in 20 years in regards to WBs, etc. If want to go to UAL because it's the current hotness then go for it... but the grass isn't always greener.

Been here 5 yrs and cant hold a 777 line

No dog in this fight, pilots have to make decisions for themselves and their situation, but I would say over the last 30yrs I've been around this business, AA's mgmt has consistently been the most harshest on it's pilots.

AA has come ALONG way, but they used to charge their own pilots for non-rev until a certain point and would even charge their own pilots to use the Jumpseat if a seat in back was open.

I knew a pilot that when hired by Eagle and based in SJU, cost HIM money to go sit reserve cause AA charged him for the non-rev to/from work and international taxes plus crash pad, etc. Net result was negative income flow.

During the furloughs of 2001, they used to do "no notice" furloughs where CPO met the plane at the gate and collected the unsuspecting FO's ID, a friend of mine had to use a buddy pass to get home. I think this was in an attempt to avoid too many just using sick time before furlough (if they announced it earlier).

After furlough, AA cut off all travel benefits, so if you were a drilling reservists that had moved to your AA domicile, too bad, so sad. They stood out in their harshness almost like they never expected or wanted their furloughed pilots to return.

That's not ever legal per the WARN Act, which requires 60 days notice.

Unless of course they were immediately furloughed and then given 60 days of time off with pay.

The WARN Act is not activated when a covered employer:

If a plant closing or a mass layoff results in fewer than 50 workers losing their jobs at a single employment site;

It 50 to 499 workers lose their jobs and that number is less than 33% of the employer's total, active workforce at a single employment site;

That shouldnt be hard to work around