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DYNASTY HVY , 03-26-2008 04:07 AM

Retired

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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Got ya, I knew it, I was just testing y'all...

"Every other commercial airline pilot envies you right now.....enjoy it. You are the highest paid, best vacation, most schedule flexibility pilots around....enjoy it. After all you could be trying to work at US Air"

Very true - except "other commercial airlines" don't have to deal with the over 60 pilots coming back to the front seat - you see their >60 pilots are where they should be - retired...

Well thats not quite right and by the way we will all be over 60 one day and will be making the decision to stay or leave and the folks behind us will be saying the same as what some are saying today about the old fellas who are staying on.Savvy?

Please return your seat to the upright position.

#22

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE , 03-26-2008 06:20 AM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY

While you will have a choice to retire at 60, 61, 65 or even later if you go to the FE seat (I'm guessing since I don't know your age) - I'm certain that option won’t be available to me and other junior guys when it's our turn to retire. Of course, we'll be able to retire "early" at 60 but not without a pension penalty.

The only true winners here are the guys over 60 AND pilots who are already secure in the left seat - in other words those who aren't risking getting bumped from the left seat. For them, the new rule means an additional 5 years of making well over quarter million dollars a year - no wonder most of them are OK with the new rule.

This thread is not really about age 60 debate but since you’re comparing apples to oranges I had to reply…

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Sideshow Bob , 03-26-2008 07:09 AM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso

You're right Sideshow. I wasn't trying to bait Jetjok, I was just pointing out that I think it's a little naive to think that 4 mos. into a huge change to everyone's careers that was great for some and not so great for a lot more, that people are just going to forget about it and move on. Especially in a downturn and working for an airline that claims it's overstaffed.

Oh yeah...I agree.

The only group of humans that hold grudges over pretty much anything more than pilots (regarding loss of seniority/seat status) are women

. So imagine if you will a woman pilot who loses her captain seat because of a geezer! Duck and cover for 20 years.

Seriously...look at the grudges still festering to this day (in no particular order/magnitude):

Reno Air/AA/TWA
USAir/Piedmont/PSA/AWA
Allegheny/Mohawk
Capitol/UAL
NWA/Republic
Flying Tigers/FDX
DAL/Western
SWA/Morris (maybe not so bad)

And there has to be many others I have forgotten. Imagine the mythical national master seniority list and the grudges that would create!

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koz2000 , 03-26-2008 12:15 PM

Gets Weekends Off

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Originally Posted by BOYCAPTAIN

not planning on doing any hiring...planning to have huge excess bid and the bottom guys will have a choice to either keep their job at FDX (HKG or CDG) or not to keep their job....they are not junior manning with this method..watch and see!

wow.... joined yesterday (3/25), most posts are flame worthy (next contract offers, FDA's) - but you speak as though you're in the "know" with both management and union.. Only person like that is DW as he'll be our next VP of flight ops

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If they furlough, our system couldn't support the 48/68 hours schedules. They would just STV rather than furlough... But I'm sure you'll answer this with a "just wait and see..."

Oh not to mention that by the time/cost it would take to get everyone retrained.