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ugleeual , 02-06-2011 01:05 PM
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My take is that not giving retirees higher priority is BS, but everyone's going to have their own opinion. I see it from the view of a UAL 24½ year guy who has been told since the day I was hired that if I retire with 25+ years, I'll get what every other UAL retiree got after 25+ years. So I see it as getting the rug jerked out from under me.

But that's just me.

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They also told me at indoc that UAL would be the last job i would ever need... look at me now.
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Plus the over 60 crowd can buy tickets with the extra dough they are getting by hanging around.
That is an ignorant and flippant response.
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Lamb,

It's been awhile, but I see you have not changed.

So, a 22 year old ramp manager with six-months longevity, going to a skateboard contest, should ride ahead of an 38 year retired employee, who is now 80 years old, with arthritis, a PBGC pension, trying to get to Mayo clinic on a pass, because that is all that he can afford.

Your sensitivity is remarkable, life is really not about you. The other employees do not give a hoot about how age 60 affected you, get over it.

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I'm sorry, but if you are 80 years old , with arthritis, trying to go to the Mayo clinic, do you really want to non-rev? Do you want to get stuck somewhere because you couldn't get on a flight. What about the active employee is trying to visit a seriously ill family member, or trying to commute to work. I respect the retired employees, for I will be one in 9 years. As a retiree, I would not expect nor want to displace a working employee if I opt to non-rev at all.

Just my two cents.
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Lamb,

It's been awhile, but I see you have not changed.

So, a 22 year old ramp manager with six-months longevity, going to a skateboard contest, should ride ahead of an 38 year retired employee, who is now 80 years old, with arthritis, a PBGC pension, trying to get to Mayo clinic on a pass, because that is all that he can afford.

Your sensitivity is remarkable, life is really not about you. The other employees do not give a hoot about how age 60 affected you, get over it.

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The red text is the important part. The rest is irrelevant emotional drivel.

And to answer, yes active employees should go ahead of retirees.... It should be straight up Longevity for active employees, with First Class being the default cabin unless traveling with children or not up to dress code standards.

Oh, and it should be FREE.


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So, a 22 year old ramp manager with six-months longevity, going to a skateboard contest, should ride ahead of an 38 year retired employee, who is now 80 years old, with arthritis, a PBGC pension, trying to get to Mayo clinic on a pass, because that is all that he can afford.
That already happens here at CAL with Chelsea "supervisors" of that vintage and longevity getting SA1 passes ahead of all pilots, flight attendants, gate agents, etc., etc., active or retired. And, about every third Chelsea employee is a "supervisor." They may not supervise anything more than a catering truck, but they are "supervisors." It was a bone Gordo threw to them back in the day and it lives on.
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That already happens here at CAL with Chelsea "supervisors" of that vintage and longevity getting SA1 passes ahead of all pilots, flight attendants, gate agents, etc., etc., active or retired. And, about every third Chelsea employee is a "supervisor." They may not supervise anything more than a catering truck, but they are "supervisors." It was a bone Gordo threw to them back in the day and it lives on.
Please educate the United side of the house. Who or what is Chelsea?
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Please educate the United side of the house. Who or what is Chelsea?
The caterers
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Please educate the United side of the house. Who or what is Chelsea?
Chelsea is the name of the catering company that handles CO. I believe it also is the first name of Frank Lorenzo's daughter. We can only hope Chelsea goes away in the merger!
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Chelsea is the catering division of Continental.

Chelsea supervisors as well as Continental supervisors receive the SA1 passes. A supervisor is basically anyone with 2 direct reports.

According to the pass survey, 82% of the respondents were against this. However, I believe SA1 passes are here to stay.

Here is what Smisek is going to say:
"We have to keep SA1 passes because our managers are the best in the business. It would be unfair to discontinue them"

Mark my words. I hope I am wrong, but this management, more than any other I have worked for, has no issue with having a class system. They continually do what they can to let you know where your place is and how little they value you, especially pilots and flight attendants.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, the Continental culture everyone talks about has been gone for at least 5 years.
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The caterers
Are they owned by CAL?
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