Anyone familiar with Ultimate Jet out of Akron OH area(Dork jets)? Are they Part 121, 135, 91 or a mix?

they operate under 135

They have been around for a while now and have outlived many competitors who flew the 328. I worked for another 135 Dornier operator and we folded in February 2008. I believe 2-3 other companies flying the plane went bankrupt within a year of that. In the small world that is that airplane, I would say they had a good reputation.

Oh, and calling it the Dork Jet probably isn't the best way to get a shot. It's a great airplane and everyone I know who has flown it, loves it. It's slow, but it was originally a turboprop so that is expected. I'd still take one over the Climb Restricted Jet (which I fly now) any day.

I have been in the sim at SimCom in MCO. It is a nice looking flight deck.

They were flying some scheduled runs out of Lunkin to New Jersey and Chicago about a year ago plus some sport's team(basketball teams) charters. After basketball season they would allegedely furlough until the season started again. I haven't heard anything about them lately.

Here are the cons:

UJC lost about 50% of their pilots in 4 months.
If you come on as an ERJ-135 pilot you are likely to start out at aroud 110k salary. Meanwhile, a 10 year Dojet captain with 20,000 hours whose been loyal to the company and flies more than the ERJ pilots, gets a 100k salary.
UJC is a very high turn over company
The flight attendants have more sway with the owner than the pilots do.
Expect to fly 8 leg days with 20 minute turns and possible pop-up trips after your 8th leg.
The owner makes deals and then “doesn’t remember” them. But if you do it, you’re on a $41T list.
Deletes things from the employee handbook and GOM when it suits the company (eg, the yearly salary scale)
Makes FO’s pay for their own ATP … or…..UJC pays for it and in exchange the FO does not get a raise the next year.
You are expected to help the flight attendants shop for stock on your down time, and help clean the plane and fold seatbelts, wash trays and windows (not everyday, but sometimes)
No onboard WiFi
Recurrent training occurs on your 6 days off, so you will work 11 days in a row with no Overtime pay, get 3 days off, then back to work….happens twice a year: once for ground and once for sim
You pay for KCM
You pay for you medical
No uniform allowance


Here are the pros:

the flight crew are great people to work with.
Home basing
Easy work load in the summer time (April-September)…8 on/ 6 off and usually 2-3 days just sitting..IN THE SUMMER
Hotels and rental cars are arranged for the flight crew (for the 1st time in decades)
Per diem is $60….unless you do casino flights, then $30 because you can eat in the employee cafeteria for free….and unless you live close enough to the plane and can sit at home on standby, then you get $0.
Good job for a first time jet
You get to keep hotel and rental car points and Tailwins points.
Overtime pay is 200%
Excellent maintenance and mechanics


There’s more, but that’s just off the top of my head. UJC is hiring. If given an interview, you are expected transport and lodge yourself.

Great update! Home basing is good - but that is not unique these days with all of the 135 and Frac jobs offering the same. Might be a good place to build some jet time before you move to better 135/91/Frac/airline jobs.

Its good for FOs new to jets, and low-time FOs in general. But after a year they usually quit due to the working conditions, shady rest rules, and other questionable practices (eg turning a 30 pax plane in 12 minutes; getting paid a week late; flying three 8 leg days in a row).

You do realize out of ATP fast track program they are advertising in the right seats of A320 or 737. As far as low time spare me on that. My first jet was a 737-800 then moved to the 767 2/3/4 series. Flying for some dirtbag outfit that has questionable operating rules sure as he’ll probably has the same type of mentality in the training command. No sympathy for those that go here or decide to stay. $130k is peanuts for a professional pilot. Chase pay and benefits QOL comes and goes. Wanna enjoy your passion buy Cessna 185 for your 18days off. Sounds like I’m a prick just tired of pilots working for these good for nothing outfits when they can do so much better.
god speed

I didn’t know that about ATP. I was just trying to be as positive as possible toward Ultimate. Truthfully, I’d only recommend it if some is having a hard time getting a pilot job due to multiple DUI’s and multiple training failures.
Your comment is 100% accurate.