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Originally Posted by Past V1
UND Aerospace has a CRJ program...from being through it...it is intense.
From ATP website...
For the lower-time flight instructor or 135 pilot...
ATP’s Regional Jet Standards Certification program includes 20 hours of CRJ-200 FTD training, 6 days of CRJ-200 ground school, and a pre-arrival home study program on CRJ systems and FMS. The program concludes with an FTD checkride with a current Regional Airline pilot, and a certification of your performing up to Airline Transport Pilot standards in the CRJ-200 FTD.
I don't know about you, but 6 days of the CRJ-200 ground school is crap. At UND try Gas Turbine Engines for 4 months along with Airline Transport Systems for another 4 months. Then you are finally put into the ground school for the CRJ while flying the FTD for 20 hours. Hands down the CRJ program at UND is far more superior to ATP's. Plus UND pilots that go though the program get reduced mins anyways. For example Pinnacle (not to say this is a great company to go to but...) is hiring UND pilots (only UND grads) that went through the program at 500 w/ME (no ME time specified).
You don't understand the program, it is meant as a basic intro to how a CRJ functions, and yes ATP does have some letters of agreement with certain regionals, but that is to interview only, you still have to get yourself through the interview. Talk about a waste of money, if it takes you 4 months to understand how a gas turbine engine works and systems for another 4 months you have bigger things to worry about than ATP's CRJ course. The Gas Turbine Engine is one of the easiest parts of a jet to understand. It does not take 8 months to understand a CRJ.
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
If you read my entire post, you would see that I noted that the DPE's are on the ATP payroll and RARELY fail anybody. i.e. they are not examining to the proper standards(IMHO). I know that things may seem ideal to some, but in the real world things "non-standard" sometimes happen. The owner is a fedex capt and has much "clout" with many DPE's. Trust me, I know plenty of pilots who went through the program and I am not impressed. Can we say "buy a license"?
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
Just as I cannot prove that they "just pass" pilots, can you prove that they do not? all high and mighty. And yes they do use certain DPE's who will NOT fail applicants. And everyone has an option to go to any University or local FBO. Both of which are better options.
Well, HotMamaPilot, let me tell you one thing, I used to work for ATP, and they
DO NOT have DPE's on their payroll. I know for a fact that DPE's are not there just to pass people. As professional pilots themselves, why would they pass someone who isn't safe or deficient in some aspect of flying? You may not agree with ATP and how they do business,but what you are saying is totally wrong. I worked for them for over a year and they don't pay off DPE's. Where did you do all of your flight training? Just curious. Every DPE I have come across or personally know through ATP, have failed plenty of ATP students. ATP removes students from the program who cannot meet the standards, so tell me how that is buying your certificates. What do they get from DPE's passing people who cannot meet the PTS, nothing. Why would ATP let 2 students who just "bought" their instrument rating, let them fly an airplane all over the place. Just for kicks, name me one DPE who ATP "employs" that won't fail a student or is on their payroll.