exerauflyboy5

What is the deal with ATPs CRJ certification, has anyone on this site ever gone throught it? And does it really hold clout with some of the regionals?

saab2000

Having a CRJ type will get the interest of many regionals. But you will still have to go through an airline's training program and there are no guarantees even if you have the type rating.

Buying a type rating is very expensive and provides no guarantees at all. There are some who feel the people who do this are just buying jobs, but I don't see it like that. But I still feel it is largely a waste of money.

Slice

No, it doesn't. Save your money. If you're low time and have $ to burn, spend it on multi time. Better yet, invest it.

HotMamaPilot

Don't go to ATP. Unless you want to be in the same company as some of the losers they spit out. It's a pilot factory and needs to be closed, IMHO

wtn0014

I went through the CRJ course at ATP last month. They gave me a discounted rate because I had graduated their career pilot program. The CRJ program is NOT worth the money. The only benefit that I see is if you go to a CRJ operator you do know your way around the cockpit somewhat. On the other hand Express Jet did email me an interview date for early November, but it is still their choice to hire me or not.

ctd57

What is your problem? I guess they do spit out some losers, but what flight school doesn't. Anyway, the program is not worth it unless you have worked or went through the Career Pilot Program. No type rating and a waste of money. It does get you an intro into how the cockpit functions, but it isn't anything that you couldn't learn during ground school at a regional.

HotMamaPilot

Sorry, but I have the utmost contempt for pilot factories and the (by)products that they create. They overcharge and severly undertrain these kids. The DPE's are all on the ATP payroll and RARELY fail anybody. IMHO they pass peops that would otherwise have failed or found another profession. I know that it doesn't take much skill to fly an RJ, but wouldn't you rather NOT compete with such people for a job?

flynavyj

basically what everyone else said...i had a buddy who did the same type of program with the ERJ, got an interview with ASA and believed it was for the his ERJ experience (migth have been) but....after being hired, he expected the RJ and got the prop.

Past V1

UND Aerospace has a CRJ program...from being through it...it is intense.

From ATP website...

For the lower-time flight instructor or 135 pilot...

ATP’s Regional Jet Standards Certification program includes 20 hours of CRJ-200 FTD training, 6 days of CRJ-200 ground school, and a pre-arrival home study program on CRJ systems and FMS. The program concludes with an FTD checkride with a current Regional Airline pilot, and a certification of your performing up to Airline Transport Pilot standards in the CRJ-200 FTD.


I don't know about you, but 6 days of the CRJ-200 ground school is crap. At UND try Gas Turbine Engines for 4 months along with Airline Transport Systems for another 4 months. Then you are finally put into the ground school for the CRJ while flying the FTD for 20 hours. Hands down the CRJ program at UND is far more superior to ATP's. Plus UND pilots that go though the program get reduced mins anyways. For example Pinnacle (not to say this is a great company to go to but...) is hiring UND pilots (only UND grads) that went through the program at 500 w/ME (no ME time specified).

LAfrequentflyer

How can someone be undertrained when they are flying to FAA mandated standards?

-LAFF