I'm having a hard time trying not to believe this isn't some type of troll thread.... Your an (self admitted) obese, 26 year old who lives with his mom, with no degree, your writing is terrible so I assume your English is choppy at best, and you want to be a pilot with no real solid way of paying it... I'm sorry if I'm coming across as a hard a$$, but you have got some very stiff competition my man. I'd reread sonny Crockett, and rickair777 post again, and again. We're not truck drivers, some 4 week course isn't going to guarantee you a job. I, myself had no solid way of paying for my flight training, and it took me 9 years from my first flight (9/1997) until I had my first airline job. I'm still chasing the dream of something better than my current regional airline job. Good luck my advice would be go to a good local FBO, I've heard Waymans is pretty good, get a degree, and go hit the gym. And stop with the I love birds talk, yeah yeah we're pilots we all love birds... Stop.

Your right Swamp i can't stop and mop, your right i am not the best in english but its not stopping my desire to go for my goals, i am not a troll i am an actual person.

Your saying that it took you a long time to get a first flight, that means it will take me a long time to get a first flight too?

I was looking at the website of Aerosim which used to be Delta Connection academy and they have the course for $70,000 but the good thing is they accept Financial aid which is giving me a light thru the tunnel?

Is Aerosim is good and Pan Am is good? also i been to wayman in opa locka airport they are good but the instructor of Pan am told me its a part 141 school?

Another thing what is a part 141 school and what is a part 61 school and which is better?

Brylove7

A fool and his money soon go their separate ways, don't be one. Read the many threads here on how guys like you wind up without a career and with debt to the eyes.

GF

Your sure then what can i do what are my options then if flight school can't be an option?

So i cannot be a pilot then what can i do?

Get a job at your local airport in "Line Service", KTMB, KOPF, KHWO whichever is closest to you. Line Service is a job where you fuel aircraft of all shapes and sizes and are immersed in all things aviation. You will meet pilots, become educated in all forms of aviation, be it instruction, corporate, private etc. The added bonus of all this is a job in the field you aspire to advance in. You will be working with other people that have the same aspirations as you have, and are going through the same struggles you will face. You will be surrounded by people with lots of knowledge as "How to Get There" info, and the added bonus of making a name for yourself in this small (aviation) world. Networking is your friend. Trust me, It worked for me.
Good Luck to you Sir.

The degree is NOT required to get any pilot's license. You would also not need a degree to get an entry-level pilot job such as flight instruction or even flying very small cargo planes at night...but those jobs have crapy pay and QOL and little or no benefits. People really only do those kinds jobs to build flight experience to qualify for airline jobs (or good corporate jobs), they are jobs you'd want to do for long.

A pilot license alone will not get you an airline job...you'll need at LEAST 1500 hours of flight experience and an ATP license. Almost nobody can afford to just buy 1500 hours, so you'll need to work entry-level jobs.

If regionals are having trouble hiring pilots you won't need the degree there. But to get any job that's worth a damn (ie major airlines) you will need a degree.

FYI, flight school salesmen are generally con-men, their business is to take money away from people who are ill-informed about aviation. You can easily tell when they are lying to you...any time their lips are moving. Common lies...

- The words "Pilot Shortage"
- You'll get an airline job within a year
- You won't need instructor certificates
- You won't need to work as a flight instructor
- You won't need a degree to succeed

Do NOT get into large debt for flight training...your first ten years of aviation will not allow you to make the loan payments. You don't need to spend $70K, you should be able to get the ratings you need for $35-40K.

Read some of the threads on these forums, then you'll be able to ask more informed questions. Start here:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fl...reer-read.html

To be successful in aviation these days you really have to be driven and passionate about it. I don't want to sound mean, but if you can't pass a remedial math class then you have no business flying hundreds of people around at a time. If you really want it you will find a way, and ignore people who say you can't, but it seems like you want a guarantee and no one here will give you that. To answer your question in general, Part 141 schools usually take less time to get ratings, but have a stricter curriculum that they have to stick to.

Ohh so thats what it is to be a regional i don't need because i can easily build up hours there but for the major airlines i do or that it helps with the hours i can build up with regional? so that flight insturctor from Pan Am could be a con-man?

But i flew in a simulator with him he showed me a 737 NG and the thing is he showed me he can lower the price to $ 37,000 i don't know if this is true or not but he seems to be wanting to help me out? should i trust him? he told me he flew for TAM for Brazil and was flying Airbus, he perfers Airbus.

Is Pan Am International Flight Academy a part 141 school or a part 61 school would anyone recommend me this school? considering Pan Am has a legendary name of a once legendary carrier.

Also yes i am looking for a job at the airport meanwhile i work for my career, thank you for the advice lear but where do i apply for that though?

All this is exactly correct. I'm a litle less cynicle when it comes to flight schools than Rick, but other than that he is spot on.

You pretty much have to have a 4 year degree (in anything) to work at a major airline. That is the first step.

A lot of people earn their 1500 hours by becoming CFIs and then working to get their hours (as well as paying off their loans).

Lastly, part 141 schools allow you to graduate more quickly if you are dedicated to getting there.

I would suggest US Aviation Academy if you are willing to move. The program I linked to brings you all the way to CFI from no training for about $40,000. You would have to move to Denton, TX for that time (and afterwards if you decided to work as a CFI for them too).

Dear Bry,

I would strongly suggest you look into a trucking school! Seriously, see if you can get a Class A drivers license for starters, then drive for at least a year, more if you want to make $$$$ for flight instruction. Trucking also requires a medical, background check and has many other similarities to flying. (Mav, "What was the name of that school, Truckmaster?")