Extension in the field

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Don't forget to put in a paylog and get your 3:30 extra duty period pay for each additional duty period.
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a. the Company may extend a pilot:

i. on a domestic trip up to 48 hours into time previously scheduled free from duty at base; or

ii. on an international trip up to 96 hours into time previously scheduled free from duty at base.

b. maintenance or weather disruptions particular to the pilot’s specific flight shall, but only to that limited extent, provide the Company with the ability to exceed the 48/96 hour limit without the pilot’s consent.

Quote: I don't know has it been grieved. This might be an example of the pilots failing to enforce strong language.
Seems clear and strong, but when has that ever stopped them before?

However, if their broken jet was fixed and given to someone else, that seems like a pretty clear violation of the above.
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It's only a violation if:

1) when notified of extension you notice the 50 hrs vs. 48 hrs and let them and the DO know you are not a volunteer for the extra 2 hrs and will file a grievance if they don't follow the CBA.

2) If for MX and forecast to be greater than 48 hrs you have to tell scheduling when the plane gets fixed you expect to be on it or on a DH. Later, when you aren't scheduled to on it, you have to notify scheduling and the DO you will file a grievance if they don't follow the CBA.


In short, when schedules calls you have to be ready for all the angles and notify them if you don't wish to accept the silent extension you are being offered. You didn't know they could offer it silently? You do now. It's always implied. They assume you are volunteering if you don't complain.

This can also occur when you are extended past operational limits.
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Quote: I don't know has it been grieved. This might be an example of the pilots failing to enforce strong language.
It also takes a "grief chair" that will follow your demand/request
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Quote: It's only a violation if:

1) when notified of extension you notice the 50 hrs vs. 48 hrs and let them and the DO know you are not a volunteer for the extra 2 hrs and will file a grievance if they don't follow the CBA.

2) If for MX and forecast to be greater than 48 hrs you have to tell scheduling when the plane gets fixed you expect to be on it or on a DH. Later, when you aren't scheduled to on it, you have to notify scheduling and the DO you will file a grievance if they don't follow the CBA.


In short, when schedules calls you have to be ready for all the angles and notify them if you don't wish to accept the silent extension you are being offered. You didn't know they could offer it silently? You do now. It's always implied. They assume you are volunteering if you don't complain.

This can also occur when you are extended past operational limits.
Gunter's points are very well stated --- and very important

Especially, his very last sentence --- because this happens somewhat routinely (extension beyond operational limits) vs the uncommon extension in the field

The schedulers won't ask you to extend beyond operational limits or even mention that it's about to occur --- they'll just keep their mouths shut, and slip you the extra 3 hrs of FAA duty extension pay

You don't have to agree to it --- and you need not call in "fatigued" either, if you don't want to do it.

You don't need a reason or justification for your decision ---You have a choice!

The only time they can involuntarily extended you beyond operational limits is during an operational emergency

And then, safety still trumps all --- you can tell them you're "fatigued"

Fly Professionally - Fly Safely - Fly Well Rested!
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Quote: It also takes a "grief chair" that will follow your demand/request
Management looks at the union's history of not filing a grievance at all or losing when they do file and likely determine they can do whatever they want within reason (as defined by them). They have no qualms about violating things like this.

1) It is every pilot's job to let them know he is aware they are violating the contract and whether it is acceptable or not. It's not management's job to spoon feed pilots.

2) Shoot me but in another place or another time, their approach to such things would be considered "just business". Do what needs to be done and if (and only if) such behavior becomes an impediment to business, then change the way they do business. So far, history has proved that is not necessary for them.

A stronger union leadership and strong supportive pilot group will make or break such behavior by management.
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Read, know and understand your Contract!
Bottom line ... you need to be familiar with the Contract. More than once I've said to CRS, "I don't think the contract allows you to that?" and had them rebuild the entire trip pairing with MUCH longer layovers and FIRST CLASS deadheads (instead of FDX j/s ANC - MEM!).

CRS tried to justify their actions as an "Operational Emergency!" I called their bluff and ended up with almost 30 hours extra pay (Hint: deadheading me home on a company jumpseat is NEVER an Operational Emergency!)

The longer layovers were paid at 200% plus 3+30 additional duty period pay!


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Think we may see more of this "creative" scheduling taking place through peak, especially if more guys decide to enjoy their days off. If scheduling can't fill their schedule through draft and volunteer, I wonder if we'll see more filling of trips by "operational extension" . . .
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It's already happening. A lot.


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Quote: It's already happening. A lot.
Be careful rolling the bones bidding a trip that ends within 48/96 hours of Christmas.
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