Total Compensation Lags Behind Delta [graphs]

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nwa757 , 01-13-2015 04:21 PM
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Dal has to lock in at least 20% raise by July for the mou to even be even with this offer.
Factcheck. It's not July.

"The following are the pay rate increases that would have to be achieved by Delta pilots no later than Jan. 1, 2016, in order to match American Airlines' proposed pay rates and do not include Delta or United profit-sharing."
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Yep, let's see those MTA rates compared to DL.

Lets see our DOM/INT and HBT contract compared to Anderson's contract at Delta.. Glass has so many hidden concessions in this contract, we will pay for our own "pay raise" twice over if we jump at his bait. Parker can afford to keep his promise to pay us Delta Pay, but he won't if we sell out cheep.

Come on you guys, didn't you boys ever chase girls when you were in high school or college? You are the chick, and Parker is the horn dog.... Put your skirts down, already.
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Factcheck. It's not July.

"The following are the pay rate increases that would have to be achieved by Delta pilots no later than Jan. 1, 2016, in order to match American Airlines' proposed pay rates and do not include Delta or United profit-sharing."
Haven't read the mou huh?
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You are slipping. You eat Parker's useless crew news propaganda about Sec 6 and make excuses for Parker reneging on his promise to pay us Delta Pay. He is negotiating with us. He has made an offer. We can accept his pathetic POS offer or we can tell him to stuff it and come back with a reasonable offer when he is ready to buy the 7 concessions he wants...

And don't forget that this POS offer has many more concessions that he never told us about... Just for one he is taking away all crew meals for domestic flights... that is just spiteful. He can afford to keep his promise to pay us Delta Pay, and he will get a lot closer to that if we demand he keep his promise... If we prostrate ourselves and sell cheep he will that too.

When are we gonna see some of the "boss" s!ht out of you? Grow a pair.
Hey I downloaded the JCBA, care to point out where it says domestic meals are gone?
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Yep...and please list all the hidden concessions. So far all the ones I've seen people claim were "hidden" were already in the MTA.
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Factcheck. It's not July.

"The following are the pay rate increases that would have to be achieved by Delta pilots no later than Jan. 1, 2016, in order to match American Airlines' proposed pay rates and do not include Delta or United profit-sharing."
Go read MTA page 206, those rates have to be agreed to by end of July with arbitration starting no later that September 1st. So dal has to have a deal in place no later than September for their new rates to count. Oh and they also need a 20% minimum raise for the "adjustment" to go over our current offer.
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The MTA doesn't include any of the Concessions Parker is trying to buy. Not one.
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Total Compensation Lags Behind Delta [graphs]
Compare this offer to the MTA & arbitration, not DAL. It should be easy to pick the better choice.
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Compare this offer to the MTA & arbitration, not DAL. It should be easy to pick the better choice.
Compare this offer to what Parker promised to pay us and is able to pay us now that the company is raking in $10 Billion from last year and this year...

He has $10 Billion and things he wants to buy. Yes, the choice is easy. No. Not, yet. Pay up *****es.
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Go read MTA page 206, those rates have to be agreed to by end of July with arbitration starting no later that September 1st. So dal has to have a deal in place no later than September for their new rates to count. Oh and they also need a 20% minimum raise for the "adjustment" to go over our current offer.
Cacti,
It's a common misconception but this is incorrect.
What the July 1 date signifies is the beginning of calculating the appropriate ASMs, in order to start the PROCESS of calculating pay, into motion. Not the actual pay rates.
So Delta has until 1/1/16 to come up with their new contract.
This has been verified by a union officer for me.
I, too, thought July 1 was the drop dead date. It's not.
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