No doubt that is very big of you, even commendable. But you need 51% to agree with your point of view. I'm trying to be realistic that's all.

I didn't, didn't, and don't.

But see it from the bean counters point of view. Envoy is simply too top heavy in the cost of labor to continue as a going concern. Why else with AAG be doing what they are doing? As attrition from the bottom accelerates, the situation becomes worse.

Your management has been screwing you every step of the way. You don't allow them to raise pay for FO's only with the leverage you now have.

I've heard that AAG is looking at purchasing a large amount of 100 to 150 seat aircraft to be flown by mainline in anticipation of its regionals shrinking overall over the next few years. I also know that United is looking at the same thing. They've been looking at the new Bombardier C-Series and an improved E-190.

Perfect, that means quicker flows.

To carry that further. In theory, with 300 of 1500 not leaving; you have 1200 that will leave. With 300 a year flowing to AA the entire list would be cycled in 4 years.

Folks, let's not live in a fantasy world here. I truly believe that the company is just stringing us along with these rumors of bonuses, rainbows, and unicorns. They're not willing to put their money where their mouth is. I think they're just making up these rumors in hopes it will retain pilots; why pay to retain when you can retain based simply on rumors?

You could be right. You could also be wrong. Your opinion is noted. My point is also opinion. None of us have a crystal ball. For now though, the company has done nothing but blow air. Let's see what happens. I don't believe FOs should stay here if they can find a better deal. I think Endeavor is a better deal for our NY FOs who live in that area as well.

The first 700 leaves Envoy in May 2015.

And the remainder in 2017.